Just Released… BREAKING: FULL TRANSCRIPT of President Trump’s July Call with Ukrainian Leader Zelen

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  1. Reasonablerob

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    Do you blame him? He knows how vain Trump is and his country desperately needs US aid against the Russkies.
     
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    Sahba* Well-Known Member

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    There is a reason behind my specific use of the term 'as of yet' in my opening. I too have questions about the totality of evidence being presented (especially enlight of Giuliani's dodge on the 'whole transcript' question on F&F this AM). Re. extrapolations based on foreign cultural norms & suppositions - I think that line of inquiry is on shaky ground. (good post SM) :)
     
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    Should we find out what Cheney did as Vice-president? I presume you support that as well? I mean anything he did. Did he make promises to get Liz elected? I heard he did, lots of people are talking about it. We should look into it, right? The only interest is in Trump's interest. No one else but he, and by proxy now you, care about this. You didn't care about it at the time. What do you even know about the company Hunter sat on the board of? Google away.
     
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    It's non-Stop. It started even before he started the election. He was never given a honeymoon period. He has never been able to do the job without some bogus pile of Leftwing crap hoisted over the nation's head attacking him repeatedly through the MSM. It's ridiculous. I am going to donate to Republican Candidates in close races across the nation. I am tired of this crap. There needs to be a price. There's a difference between oversight and abuse, and we are far far far into the abuse realm.
     
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    I'd say yes but what specific abuse of power from Cheney do you refer to?
     
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    You were doing pretty good until your last sentence. Kinda devalues everything, when you let bias cloud your post.
     
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    So my prediction before this:

    Trump would release the transcript. Dems would see the black sharpie again and chase it like a hound after a rabbit just like he wants them to.

    Meanwhile the actual content of the transcript would speak directly to his base and anyone on the fence.

    Sure enough...

    Do we really have to wonder why so many of the complaints the Dems have about Trump's performance are based on red herrings? It's yet another opportunity for him to put his effectiveness on display in a way that his supporters can see it, and his detractors can't.
     
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    The stock market doesn't actually elect presidents. And it's been "surging" since 2010. So I fail to see your point other than you really wanted to use that emoji.

    And impeachment definitely isn't determined by the stock market (ask Bill Clinton) and neither is your well being, Gordan Gekko.
     
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    Don't worry, I'm still doing good. Of course I don't like him and he's indisputably orange. So not really bias more like facts. That said, if you choose to dismiss the entire post based on that one sentence, that just says you know you're wrong and you have nothing to stand on. At least have the courage to admit it. That, and admit that he's unnaturally orange.
     
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    "If the prosecutor's not fired, you're not getting the money." - Joe Biden, Jan. 2018
     
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    Anyone on the fence? On the fence of what? These on the fence voters?

    https://www.bloomberg.com/news/arti...-luster-for-independents-in-2020-warning-sign

    It's not clear that any of this drama appeals to "on the fence" voters. This type appeals to the base of both parties.
     
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    Yah if I point a gun at you and ask for your wallet, I didn’t rob you. There was no mention of me shooting you. You willingly gave it to me.
     
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    Congress needs to solve everything because trump is too busy berating our allies into helping take down his political rivals.
     
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    Yes, he is unnaturally orange. However, that has absolutely nothing to do with the subject at hand.... when the need to throw childish insults overwhelms, it does devalue the post. I actually agree with several things you have posted, but then you went and posted that....
     
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    So out of 3 pages, the libs haven't been able to point out and say "there we got him". That tells you something.
     
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    Two observations: 1) Although the call was made shortly after Trump blocked $400 million in aid for Ukraine, appropriated by the U.S. Congress, there is no mention of it in the telephone conversation? 2) Three days after the telephone conversation, Dan Coats, the DNI, and his career intelligence deputy, resigned.
     
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    No one legitimately suspects Biden or his son of committing a crime. No one.
     
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    If you want to criminalize politics to that extent be my guest

    But cheney has been out of office for 10 years

    Biden, not so long
     
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    Creasy Tvedt got his marching orders:
    White House is encouraging supporters to stress there was no quid pro quo.

    First of all there doesn't even need to be quid pro quo. Setting that aside the evidence of quid pro quo exists right in the transcript: "I will say that we do a lot for Ukraine" followed shortly after by a request to go after Biden.

    He's going to be impeached.
     
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    But they are a lot of fun. Obviously, his being orange has nothing to do with it, but good Lord, laugh a little at it. Even Trump made a joke about it.

    Agree or not based on what ever you want. That's actually YOUR bias which is fine, bias is a GOOD thing. Like anything, it's how you choose to use it that matters.
     
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    And Obama was half black, so what?
     
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    So, what's the time limit? 10 years? YOU'RE the one who wants to do it. What does it matter now what Biden did? Explain to me why it matters. There's a reason, but it's the one I already said, he's running against Trump and Trump is looking to, YET AGAIN, have a foreign government provide something of value to his campaign...
     
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    That was really nearly as troubling as the criminal content. Trump was eating it up.
     
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