City bans calling someone an ‘illegal alien’ out of hate

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  1. Steve N

    Steve N Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I guess you never heard the terms white privilege or white supremacy.
     
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    what does this have to do with what I posted?

    That is what I've said and I stand by it, so your point is what?

    You are really stretching lad, you should try Yoga
    First comparing data as you collected from Euronews is not only disingenuous but almost laughable

    First America and Britain reports crimes differently
    We in America use a calendar year
    the Home office in Britain uses a fiscal year

    The New York City Police keeps a database that is searchable and lists the murders by category
    London's Metropolitan police provides data on murders from knife crime but doesn't provide tallies of knife murders, its outside groups like Murder map that collects data based on deaths of individuals

    The UK home office also calculates Murders differently then the do in the states

    I didn't say there was a law preventing me from my opinion, they were warning me as in the UK they dont have the first amendment right like we have in the States

    I dont have a positive view of wahhbism , but I have said nothing negative about Islam

    Im still awaiting proof of what I said that was spouting hatred?
     
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  3. truth and justice

    truth and justice Well-Known Member

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    Are you just pretending to be this slow?
    You wrote : "I know in the UK you cannot say anything negative about Islam"
    The leader of one of the main political parties, UKIP, said Muslim ideology "legitimises sex slaves" and says he stands by his belief that Islam is a "death cult".

    Are you maintaining that what this leader said is not negative about Islam!

    LOL You were the one warned. Why don't you tell me why different people in 4 cities warned you? You must have said something or are you going to deny that?
     
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    Most of us aren't interested in a journey to upend the first amendment.
     
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    Oh I got your point earlier BTW
    on topic

    what did he say that was negative, I read the article

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    "It's in the Hadith and the Koran. It's a tradition that that's okay to do that.

    "People take their prophet as the model for all time and the perfect human being, so if he did something then it's okay for other people to do it.

    "The problem is with the ideology, not individuals. I have never attacked individuals. I always talk about the ideology, and the ideology is the problem."


    How is that negative? you snowflakes offend too easily , one speaks the truth and now they are racists and Islamophobic... LMFAO

    If he called them goat fuckers or other derogatory names I would agree and condemn him but for speaking the truth ? sorry .
    So citing crimes Wahhabi extremest committed is negative, racist and Islamophobic?

    Too funny

    I also think minority youths in the UK causes a lot of crimes which pumps up the stats , although brixton is getting better, are you telling me that
    Hackney, Haringey , Southward and peckham are safe areas for people to travel to?
     
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    It's like the liberals there want to turn us into Canada. Thank God for the 1st Amendment. If someone attempts to use this directive hopefully it will be challenged in courts because it is so anti-American.
     
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    So what should we call crack whores?
     
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    Well the undocumented foreigners certainly commit those infractions at an incredibly high rate.
     
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    They actually took quite a lot of flak for that good song.
     
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    New York what a bunch of idiots. Don't call people by an accurate description. Or we'll get you.. bunch of authoritarian pricks.
     
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    They have gotten away with abrogating the Second Amendment.
     
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    How is saying Islam is a death cult not a negative about Islam! How is saying Islam legitimises sex slaves" not a negative about Islam? So you're saying that the views he gave on Islam were positive views on Islam, is that what you're saying? You've lost it

    You seem to be having a debate with someone else in your head; do you hear voices in your head?
     
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    I think you are the one who is slow

    I read the entire article including what he said, did you miss the part
    People take their prophet as the model for all time and the perfect human being, so if he did something then it's okay for other people to do it.

    "The problem is with the ideology, not individuals. I have never attacked individuals. I always talk about the ideology, and the ideology is the problem.


    What about those low lives who groom young girls for sex ?
    are you denying that doesn't exist?

    Are you denying that the extremist are not out to murder "infidels" in their eyes?

    The average Muslim isnt advocating it, just the extremists and what is wrong with pointing that out

    Is our conversation too difficult for you to follow?
     
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    All a good reason to beef up our border security-because globalist commies...
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    As I understand it, there is an omitted verse in the "public" release of the song that was particularly non-pc.

    Its a catchy tune for sure.
     
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    It seems to me that this is all focused on Latin Americans and so indeed, color plays a tune here. You can't be calling those people "illegal aliens" out of the blue, and threaten that you call the cops on them. That is made illegal in NY.

    You don't seem to be very supportive.
     
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    Which bit don't you get? You wrote "I know in the UK you cannot say anything negative about Islam". You do know what the opposite of "negative" is, don't you?

    So I repeat, How is saying Islam is a death cult not a negative statement about Islam! How is saying Islam legitimises sex slaves not a negative statement about Islam? So you're saying that the views he gave on Islam were positive views on Islam, is that what you're saying? I'll make it simple for you, saying Islam is a death cult or saying Islam legitimises sex slaves is saying negative things about Islam whether those statements are true or not

    You're still having a conversation with the voices in your head! In case you don't get it, where have I said extremists aren't murdering people? Where have I said that it is wrong to point out extremism?
     
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    White privilege is real. And white supremacists are racist. What about it?
     
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    The constitution prevents this law from being enforced. It’s void at inception as it violates the first amendment.
     
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    if you're going to cherry pick people's quote, its going to be a short conversation

    You seem fixated on certain parts of his quote, I tend to read the entire statement to understand what he is saying.
     
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    LOL You still don't get it! Saying Islam is a death cult or saying Islam legitimises sex slaves is saying negative things about Islam whether those statements are true or not
     
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    rinse , lather and repeat....

    so whether those statement are true or not? okay then
    So when one tells the truth and its not good its consider taboo

    rightttttttttttt.

    Im not defending the guy, he has his people to do that
    but I've read he said that after the Sultan of Brunei's recent declaration that gay sex in his country should be punished by stoning gays to death.

    You dont seem to be outraged over that, but lets take his silly comment to task.

    Now I dont know the grief he received over those comment but me as a foreigner If I said that in the UK, they would ship my ass out
    we all know what happened to Lauren southern

    now as the comment that Islam legitimizes sex slaves that is what wahabbists say, not the average law abiding Allah fearing Muslim

    get it now?

    Now I think the UK leader should know the difference between the average Muslim and Wahhabi, just like you people should learn the difference between right wing conservatives vs alt right scumbags
     
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    I dunno what you're taking about. This isn't any different than other defamation laws.
     
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    Huh? The constitution precludes the government from criminalizing speech. This NY law is void at inception as it violates the first amendment.
     
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    And many nationalists are not white.
     

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