Whistleblower is CIA agent

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  1. Aleksander Ulyanov

    Aleksander Ulyanov Well-Known Member

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    You really need to look in a mirror occasionally
     
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    Ummmmmn......then why did Donald try to bribe him with 400M in aid to investigate dirt on Biden?

    Is that a lie too?
     
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    I think that is paranioa on your part. Probably derived from the hysterical right-wing websites like Breibart that Trumpers like to hang out at. Don't let the paranoia destroya..

    You do know that your constitution protects your right to peaceful assembly and protest, right?

    What we are going through is already dangerous. Violence won't make that better.
     
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    HereWeGoAgain Banned

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    He is threatening witnesses with death and charges of treason. That alone is a crime. And it certainly shows that trump is a tyrant. He is a little Hitler in the making and people like you are making it possible.
     
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    Interesting that you think the paranoia is mine when you brought up that the US was heading for a dangerous time. Clearly you must be regretting your words because it jumped right out as someone who was encouraging street violence.

    Please stop trying to incite violence.
     
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    Why do you keep bringing up collusion? I never said anything about that. Oh, right, deflection.

    That being said, there was definately obstruction - why if he had nothing to hide -and I can document Russian dirty money pouring into Trump real estate for decades. Nobody really knows if that gives Russia leverage or not but look at his behavior towards Putin and there us all kind of smoke.

    Look, You are not the only one who has been taken in by the worst con on the planet though. Almost a third of the country got rooked by a lying crook with no idea how to govern a country too. Now the truth is starting to come out and you are trying, much like your idol, everything you can to deflect or wiggle out of what is staring you right in the face.

    This dumster fire us only going to grow bigger and hotter though. Even his aides are warning him he is going to be impeached. He may be protected by the senate but this is just going to get uglier and more disastrous for the country. At least Nixon had the decency to quit. Trump wants to get people like you to start a civil war - just to protect himself from prosecution.

    Just today it turns out he had the attorney general running around trying to get foreigners to put up dirt on opponents for crass political gain and has broken whistlebreaker laws by publically threatening witnesses.

    And that isn't half of it just today.

    I get it and I feel your pain......hug?
     
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    Lol, please quit with the stawmen or provide the direct quote where I said I want to incite violence. Your nation is already dangerous times and if you don't know it you're living in dream land. Your president is suggesting the nation have another civil war to protect his sorry ass and you're okay with that but I'm inciting violence, lol.

    Deflecting on to me by putting words in my mouth is a pretty lame tactic - one of the lamer attempts I've seen here actually. Why do you feel the need to do that instead of discussing the actual issue?

    I have never promoted violence if any kind and you know it.

    I would love to see a million people out on the monument peacefully protesting corporate corruption of your democracy.........or do you want to take away people's constitutional right to assembly and protest?
     
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    Obstruction of a non crime ?
     
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    And Trump knew from day one there was no crime, something the Democrats learned two years later. But, like the election itself, they still can't admit they lost.
     
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    No. Obstruction of an investigation.

    Don't forget that 34 individuals have been indicted and 5 Trump associates or campaign officials convicted or pled guilty in the investigation. Mueller was clear that he had not exonnerated Trump of anything as claimed.
     
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    If that were true then why did Trump try so hard to obstruct the onvestigation and get his officials to shut it down?

    Is that what innocent people do? Do you think he is acting like an innocent person now with the WB allegations?
     
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    It was not Mueller's job to 'exonerate'. However, unless someone is found guilty of a crime they are, in effect, innocent and therefore 'exonerated'.

    And of course the investigations into this Russian hoax has been going on for a while and at least one may be completed and available within the month..
     
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    Because he knew there was no crime and the sham investigation was a waste of time and money. He was proven right, despite the Dem lawyers having all the information they asked for, FBI agents, and calling some 500 witnesses.
    Sure. How is he supposed to act? The Democrats are being played yet again. Does Adam Schiff, Jerry Nadler, or Nancy Pelosi seem particularly bright to you? The first two are crude thinkers while Nancy is caught in a trap.
     
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    I'm asking for an investigation... you're the one making disgusting and vile remarks about your President... two very different approaches...clearly we'll see two very different images
     
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    That's right, nothing to see because if you actually read the transcript instead of listening to the DNC spin, you'd see there was no such thing, no quid pro quo.
     
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    Disagree with him? :roflol: I'd say sedition and an attempted coup is just a bit more than a simple disagreement.
     
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    For collusion with Russia?
     
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    Not exonerated, you make me laugh. What were the charges?
     
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    Yavohl Mein Fuehher
     
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    Even trying to find out who the whistleblower is is a CRIME ...and Trump admitted in public that he IS trying to find out who the whistleblower is.....I know THAT crime pales in comparison to his other crimes but the fact he admitted it in public ??…. unbelievable..
     
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    Peaceful assembly is sedition. Protest is an attempted coup

    Do you guys click your heels everytime Trump comes on tv?
     
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    First, merely "soliciting" is a crime, no quid pro quo needed, second, aid had been delayed and withheld by the president himself prior to the call. Add that to "not so reciprocal" and you have your pro quo. Trump is guilty as hell and you know it. It just doesn't matter to you because you're so in love with the Agenda you're willing to lie to yourself and overlook it.
     
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    Then you support Pelosi's Investigation? Good, we agree

    I'm so glad

     
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    Except that Mueller specifically stated he was unable to exonerate Trump of wrongdoing and he did not find Trump innocent:

    Mr Mueller said he had not exonerated Mr Trump of obstruction of justice.
    The former FBI director spent two years probing alleged collusion between the 2016 Trump campaign and Russia, but did not establish collusion in a crime.
    He concluded that Russia had interfered in the election with the intention of benefitting Mr Trump's campaign.

    In all, 35 people and three companies were charged by the special counsel on matters relating both directly and indirectly to alleged Russian interference in the 2016 election. No members of the Trump family were charged.
    Mr Mueller and his team concluded that they were unable to charge the president with a crime, but could not exonerate him either.


    https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-49100778
     
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    C'mon, Trump couldn't care less about taxpayers dollars. The deficit has gone up by a T since he took office and he's wasting money all over the place on walls military spending. He was obstructing to try to save his sorry ass just like he is doing now.
    He is supposed to act presidential and cooperate with the investigation if he has nothing to hide. None of the politicians currently in office seem particularly bright to me but Trump is the dimmest, most narcissistic, self-absorbed shyster to ever disgrace the office.

    And nobody is caught in a trap except for Trump. You don't realize the gravity of the situation There is easily an 80% chance that he will be impeached and that goes up if republicans realize the ship is going down and start jumping off like rats. There are already cracks and Trump knows it which is why the twitter storm trying to desperately distract from the facts.

    I am surprised that you cannot see the disgraceful abuse of power for crass political gain going on here and how dangerous it is for democracy.
     
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