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Trump to Protect U.S. Taxpayers from Subsidizing Health Care for Immigrants

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  1. dairyair

    dairyair Well-Known Member

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    What free stuff?
    Those who come here legally, do so for a job or education.
    Unless, they are refugees and are here under refugee status. Then yes, I guess they are taken care of until they get on their feet. I assume.
     
    dairyair, Oct 5, 2019
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    dairyair Well-Known Member

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    The anchor babies are US citizens and are just like you.
     
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  3. Professor Peabody

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    That has to change.

     
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    superbadbrutha Banned

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    So folks with visas should be forced to have healthcare, but US citizens shouldn't.
     
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    ronv Well-Known Member

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    Have you checked your insurance to see if your covered overseas? Your probably not.
     
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  6. Steve N

    Steve N Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Federal Benefit Eligibility for Unauthorized Immigrants
    2/24/2014
    In general, unauthorized immigrants within the United States are not eligible for any federal public benefits, except:

    • Emergency medical treatment under Medicaid, if the individual otherwise meets the eligibility requirements and the medical condition is not related to an organ transplant procedure
    • Immunizations for immunizable diseases and testing for and treatment of symptoms of communicable diseases (does not include assistance from Medicaid)
    • Short-term, non-cash, in-kind emergency disaster relief
    • Programs, services, or assistance that deliver in-kind services at the community level, do not have conditions for assistance on the recipients’ income or resources, and are necessary for the protection of life and safety
      • Includes access to soup kitchens, crisis counseling and intervention, short-term shelter, mental health services, and child and adult protective services
    • To the extent that an immigrant was receiving assistance on 8/22/96, programs for housing, community development, or financial assistance administered by the HUD Secretary, which include:
      • Financial assistance in rural areas to farmers, owners, developers, and the elderly for loan insurance, the purchase of property, housing for trainees, and low rent housing for farm workers under title V of the Housing Act of 1949
      • Loans and grants for water access and waste treatment to alleviate health risks under Section 306C of the Consolidated Farm and Rural Development Act
    • Free public education for grades K-12
    • Federally subsidized school lunch and school breakfast programs for individuals eligible for free public education under state or local law
    • At state option, medical coverage under SCHIP, including prenatal care and delivery services, for unborn children who meet other program eligibility criteria
    Note: Exceptions 2 and 3 above only grant access to disaster relief and emergency assistance for the protection of life and safety, and do not extend to non-emergency aid based on each recipient’s need.

    Unauthorized immigrants are eligible for the following nutrition assistance programs:

    • Special Supplemental Nutrition Program for Women, Infants, and Children (WIC)
    • Child and Adult Care Food Program (CACFP)
    • Summer Food Service program
    • Special Milk program
    • Commodity Supplemental Food Program (CSFP)
    • The Emergency Food Assistance Program (TEFAP)
    • Food Distribution Program on Indian Reservations (FDPIR)
    http://www.ncsl.org/research/immigration/federal-benefits-to-unauthorized-immigrants.aspx

    Not to mention free legal services, no court costs and turned loose after an arrest in sanctuary states. Theoretically, the only way illegals can survive in this country is through criminal activity.
     
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    Why?
    They grow up and become a taxpayer. Just like you had to. They are citizens, just like you.
     
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    From the OP article:

    The rule means that foreign nationals with serious health issues and no means to pay for health insurance will not be eligible to obtain visas to permanently begin resettling in the U.S.

    I agree 100%.
     
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    Yes. Dying in the streets, they are protected from that. And that is a benefit to society. Think of all the diseases there'd be if dead bodies were decaying in public.
     
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    ....and their elderly parent non citizens can eventually apply for citizenship and Social Security Benefits. Are you willing to do that knowing Social Security will likely go bankrupt before you are old enough to get it?
     
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  11. dairyair

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    Only those who qualify for SS can receive SS. Legal status doesn't seem to matter.

    Myth No. 1: Illegal immigrants collect Social Security
    My YouTube channel is absolutely inundated with these kinds of comments. The belief that illegal immigrants can come to the United States and immediately receive Social Security benefits is simply not true.

    What is true is that citizenship is not required. However, immigrants must be lawfully present and must pay into the system for at least 10 years.
    https://www.marketwatch.com/story/t...-no-matter-how-often-you-hear-them-2019-08-27
     
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    SSI, SNAP, TANF, Medicaid, CHIP, ACA, Section 8 Housing, EITC "refunds" (welfare) and State benefits. Then of course taxpayers have to pick up the tab for multi-lingual interpreters in schools, courts, etc.
     
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  13. dairyair

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    I see. Stuff you they can't get. Unless one listens to faux tv.
     
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    The quoted paragraph defines "inadmissibility" (rejection of the visa). Trump's proclamation gets him brownie points with his base and does nothing to improve Public Charge.
     
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    9royhobbs Well-Known Member

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    You're voting record does not speak well for you.
    You may chaulk up your "Mrs. Bill" as cleaver (like your voting record) but it's actually, ......well.....boring.
     
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    That's right, to the point of the OP, the US can AFFORD to be choosy who we allow in.
     
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    When was the last time you put some less off before yourself. Tomorrow is Sunday, go to church.
     
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    not quite. Folks “with serious health issues and no means to pay for health insurance will not be eligible to obtain visas to permanently begin resettling in the U.S”

    Do you have problem with that?
     
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    So how do illegals survive? The only way they can do it is by committing crimes.

    You guys have said this thousands of times during the last three years, no one is above the law.
     
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    I think we should help non citizens become citizens.
    You brought up a good question. Why DON'T we help the millions that already have nothing.......oh yeah, they're welfare vampires that SHOULD pull themselves up by the bootstraps but are too lazy........right? I believe that's the standard answer from the right.
     
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    Canada.Austria.Australia.Ecuador.Nicaragua.Argentina.Uruguay
     
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    work
     
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    His Presidency, our democracy
     
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    What do you care, you hate them all if they don't come from Europe.
     
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  25. Steve N

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    They can’t legally work. They steal the identities of other people when they’re not engaged in kidnapping, gang activity, drug sales, human trafficking and all sorts of other good stuff.

    Dudette, they legally can’t work in this country. But here you are with your sanctuary cities....
     
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