As laboratory methodology and technology improve there will be less and less failure in the system -- both in letting the guilty go free, and in punishing the innocent.
I'm not so sure about that. My question would be, at what point might that fear become hate and lead to revolt? I watched an episode of Frontline about Duarte's reign of terror against drugs in the Philippines. That fear of the police seems likely to backfire on him before too long.
In some ways...But there was a test for drugs that cops were using not so long ago, and it was leading to a lot of false positives. A.I. is being used, but it still has a very long way to go before it can be relied upon.
That certainly seems logical, but look at the number of repeat offenders. That suggests they don't care or they don't think they'll get caught.
Square the sentence for the third offense, that is, 7 years = 49 years. Cube the sentence on the fourth offense = never have freedom again.
He needs to assemble a large special agent task force wherein each member has had drugs rob them of a family member. Then turn them loose.
Sure. I’ve found a lot can be learned from elders if you are friendly and show a genuine interest in their knowledge. They’ll shoot straight because they rarely have any reason to obfuscate any more. This guy said a large percentage of people who walked through his office door knew him by name. They’d say things like “how’s it going, ____?, or good to see you again”. He was jovial until I asked the question we’re discussing and then he seemed saddened by the whole situation. That would be a tough job to not take home with you after hours.
Here is an idea inspired by the many Australian liberals who post in this forum. Rather than incarcerate people who commit crimes, let's deport them to Australia.
I think that the odds are in favor of the greater good... Just like we dont need to warp our worlds around a tiny minority who claim they can change genders whenever they want to. But yet... here we are, demanding I call "her" and "xer".
i support a conversation about how to potentially change our correctional system.. i don't support coming to conclusions before the conversation takes place or coming to to the conversation with an already established agenda..
Yeah, the Germans have been implementing this variety of 'punishment' policy for a while -- even for convicted MURDERERS. There are no reliable data on how 'effective' this is in Germany, but it is certain that the socialists who run Germany 'cook the books' to 'sanitize' the outcomes. If nothing else, the indisputable effect will be that today in Germany, you can commit ANY crime, and your punishment will be a wrist-slap, or, nothing at all.... . There WAS a time when real criminals in Germany were scared -- VERY scared....
It's very nihilistic to invalidate rules using rare exceptions. You disputed my characterization of your argument that false imprisonment justifies the abolition of prison. Once again, however, you have reinforced that impression. Clearly you think your reply to doombug has something to do with what doombug said. The quote can be summarized, "it is moral to remove dangerous individuals from society." You responded with people who you apparently think pose little or no danger. What does that have to do with the statement you quoted? Were you attempting to refute the claim that it's moral to remove dangerous people from society by citing the potential to remove harmless people from society? Why would you do that if you didn't think it was an argument as I framed it for you: "People are falsely convicted therefore do away with prison." If you're trying to make an argument for Blackstone's Ratio, then go ahead and make that argument. I don't think you intend for the ratio to be 0 /100 but at least attempt the argument so that we can know for sure what you mean.
Or the death penalty. Instead of government confiscation and destruction of guns, how about we have government confiscation and destruction of criminals?
What if a convicted felon becomes a reality show? Every moment of their lives is video'd and broadcast to nosy millenials that monitor their behavior.
Most of our prisons are institutes of higher learning for criminals where they can exchange ideas on how to rip people off and improve their robbery techniques.
I would see prison use drop significantly. Other posters have suggested corporal punishment and public humiliation as alternatives. I would like to try those. I also think non-violent and non-theft 'crime' should be handled entirely with fines. But we will always need somewhere to put people who continue to steal and/or be violent. There will always be a need for prison to some extent.
I'd be more concerned with what we think it would be like without prisons and those consequences. Personal experience is the courts are fairly lenient for first offence, most convicts are repeat offenders. In my opinion prisons are avoidable if players take the breaks given them, but obviously that's not the case with a great many..
Fines are not the answer.. Most petty crimes are committed by people that cant make ends meet, saddling them with more debt clearly isn't going to help them
