Diversity is our weakness

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  1. Polydectes

    Polydectes Well-Known Member

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    Displace the native populis
     
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    I was taking a whizz off my backporch (a privilege even the president of the USA can't indulge) When a Black guy with a gun walked thru my property! (and me there caught holding my pride in my hand!)

    However, he spoke perfect American HS English (a qualifier of mine).. and had on the uniform of one of our wonderful US Federal officers.. wished him good hunting, as I don't want illegals and drug runners doing the same as he did.
     
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    Lol, so the argument basically breaks down to "A lot of people are racist/xenophobic/etc, therefore those idiocies are justified." I'd slow clap, but I'd need further assurances this isn't a parody.
     
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    Mischaracterization of the point being made.
     
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    Eventually you will have to realize living in a bubble is no way to live.
     
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    Fantasy and fairy tales.
     
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    President Obama made it very clear, the Islamist terrorist attack at Ft. Hood was not a terrorist attack but violence in the workplace.

    Also CNN made it very clear that the Army officer (Islamist terrorist) violated the Fort Hood PC "Gun Free Zone" rules.
     
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    Irish and Italians are both white and both Catholic.

    they used to fight all the time in NYC.
     
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    In what way? That sure seems to sum up the OP.
     
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    The only way to end all diversity, being religious/ethnic/racial, would be through Fascist or Communist policies.
     
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    This is funny. The left doesn't tolerate and actively tries to shut down beliefs which go against their own, at those moments the left never considers diversity to be a good thing. Yet when some uneducated person who doesn't speak our language who also comes from a religion/culture that is not only incompatible with ours, but instead goes against everything the left stands for, that's when liberals incredibly find something of value in diversity, and if you ask them what that value is all they can come up with is the food.

    We are the strongest nation on the planet, how does flooding this country with people who come from lesser countries make us stronger? If you were in the animal breeding business, would you breed a championship dog with lesser dog hoping that diversity makes the champion dogs litter better?

    Diversity, as described by what the left wants, is nothing more than virtue signaling and making the left feel good. And the kind of diversity the left is demanding doesn't exist in the NFL or NBA, those are two glaring examples when the left suddenly find value in ability and merit.
     
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    during the early 1900s, many Americans thought diversity was bad.

    they wanted to kick out anyone who was not of British descent and Protestant.

    the OP would have been kicked out.
     
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    When you can't defend and can only distract, and when in your distraction you can't even get the political affiliation of the person you are responding to right, you know you are in trouble. But glad to see you add even more xenophobic fever dreams to the already sizeable mountain of nonsense to further prove the point.

    Why do you abandon all concepts of individualism and instead judge people's value based on collectivist superstitions about the nations they originate from, and why are you so hypocritical as to ignore that your own ancestors also came from such "lesser countries"? Funny, that. Keep fighting for authoritarian collectivism while complaining about the left. That at least has entertainment value.
     
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    Diversity is neither inherently bad or good.

    what really causes problems is socio-economic inequality
     
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    First of all, what exactly is wrong with being xenophobic? Don't respond with 'well, if you don't know...' because I and hundreds of millions of people around the world are in fact xenophobic to some degree.

    Second, when my grandparents came here from Italy they didn't teach my father how to speak Italian, they said he needed to speak English and be an American. That doesn't seem to happen much any more. My grandparents did not try to turn this country into the countries they came from which are Ireland, Germany, Italy and Armenia. All one has to do to see how well diversity is working for us is to look at Ilhan Omar and what/who she defends and stands for.

    Diversity for the sake of saying you're diverse is a losing proposition.
     
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    and Madison Grant and the other Nativists wanted to deport your grandparents, cause they weren't WASPs and Little Italy was full of crime.
     
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    If you praise diversity you must also praise racist people and the xenophobic. To exclude them is to betray diversity. Certain cultures and ethnicities are racist and xenophobic to tell them they shouldn't be is to be intolerant of their existence.
     
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    You can favor a rejection of reason in favor of irrational fears if you want. I shouldn't have to explain with what is wrong with irrational nonsense.

    Yep. Lots of people around the world are irrationally ignorant in all sorts of ways.

    Nice dodge. The xenophobic brain farts being wafted at today's immigrants are the exact same ones that ignorant xenophobes wafted at your ancestors.

    It's also a fake response. Who here as argued for "diversity for the sake of saying you're diverse"? Pseudo-fascist nationalists are the ones arguing for homogeneity for the sake of homogeneity. You got it backward.
     
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    So what?
     
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    That would be anti diversity.
    I can't fault Steve for misconstruing xenophobia for rational dislike of other cultures. People who squawk about xenophobia don't seem to understand that there are rational reasons.

    proving the point I made above.
     
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    Nobody is suggesting throwing people out as a reasonable solution. It is what it is. We have ethnic diversity so we need to deal with it the best we can. Our point was that the diversity itself is a negative factor in any society.
     
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    The primary negative factor doesn't come from the diversity itself but from the bigotry of those responding to it. Blaming diversity is like blaming a rape victim for being raped instead of blaming the rapist.
     
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    yes it does come from the diversity itself. It is human nature to stay with something you are familiar with that is not bigotry. It's being human.

    that is false humans have the instinctive nature to stay with their own tribe this is not bigotry it's human nature. I think it's a good thing to fight this human nature and to get to know people that are different from you. But understanding that they're different from you and sometimes very different from you to an unacceptable level Is perfectly natural.
     
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    Let's cut to the chase, what is positive about diversity? The need for schools to teach in multiple languages? The way those diverse people tend to live in their little enclaves where we are the foreigners?

    Other than the food, what is good about diversity?
     
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    If there were no welfare teat and a tight US Treasury diversity would work somewhat better.
     
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