Mick Mulvaney publicly confirms Trump held up Ukraine aid for political gain

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  1. MolonLabe2009

    MolonLabe2009 Banned

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    WTH are you talking about?
     
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    Hmm, if by selling out you mean like "guys, we'll give you an enormous amount of money but you need to clean up your act first and deal with corruption so that our money doesn't end up in wrong hands and help our DOJ investigate election meddling that some of your countrymen were involved in"... I approve this sort of "selling out", it does not make us friends, it makes us good and honest friends and it does not make us a "thug nation" it makes us a reasonable and less gullible nation. Duh
     
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    No, part of the QPQ was during the call, but not the full thing...

    Trump is an idiot, but not stupid enough to tie the US part of the QPQ to the Ukrainian investigation(s) in what he knew would be a recorded phone call...
     
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  4. Egoboy

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    Ahhh... here we go.... didn't take as long as I thought it would

    SNIP
    Mulvaney issued a statement Thursday afternoon accusing the media of “misconstruing” his earlier remarks to the press at the White House “to advance a biased and political witch hunt against President Trump.”

    “Let me be clear, there was absolutely no quid pro quo between Ukrainian military aid and any investigation into the 2016 election,” Mulvaney said. “The president never told me to withhold any money until the Ukrainians did anything related to the server.”
    ENDSNIP

    https://thehill.com/homenews/admini...back-comments-tying-ukraine-aid-to-2016-probe

    Meanwhile, earlier at the batcave

    SNIP
    "Did he also mention to me the corruption related to the DNC server? Absolutely. No question about it. But that's it. That's why we held up the money."
    ENDSNIP

    This is why nobody in the Trump administration should be allowed near working microphones...

    Misconstrue this, moron....
     
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    Something that I have been mulling is where is the line for his defenders, on this issue.

    If what trump did here is appropriate, what is inappropriate?
     
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    Forget the Crowdstrike Conspiracy. What I want to know is was Obama born in Hawaii? Did we fake the Moon landing? What really happened in Roswell? And, where are Biggie and Tupac?
     
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    Stay in the fake Trump crime scenario if that helps you.
     
  8. Egoboy

    Egoboy Well-Known Member Donor

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    There is no line... Absolutely no line... reminds me of one of my favorite quotes of all time

    He who defends everything defends nothing...
     
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    I have no clue what you are trying to say here.
     
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    Leftist and our corrupt MSM, which is made up of more Leftists can't quit lying. It's Orwellian now.

    What Mulvaney really said was, Trump had initially withheld funding from Ukraine for many reasons like:

    • Europe was not providing enough funding for military aid.
    • Suspicion of past corruption in Ukraine — which included Ukraine’s possible role in interfering in the 2016 presidential election
    • Possible possession of a Democratic National Committee server
    Other quotes from Mulvaney:

    “The money held up had absolutely nothing to do with Biden.”

    "Go look at what [U.S. Ambassador to the European Union] Gordon Sondland said today in his testimony — was that, I think, in his opening statement — he said something along the lines of, they were trying to get the “deliverable,” and the deliverable was a statement by the Ukraine about how they were going to deal with corruption. Okay? Go read his testimony, if you haven’t already. And what he says, and he’s right, that’s absolutely ordinary course of business. This is what you do. When you have someone come to the White House — when you either arrange a visit for the president, you have a phone call with the president — a lot of times we use that as the opportunity to get them to make a statement of their policy, or to announce something that they are going to do. It’s one of the reasons you can sort of announce that on the phone call or at the meeting. This is the ordinary course of foreign policy."


    These ongoing misrepresentations by the Leftists is harmful to the nation. The Democrats/MSM lies and cherry picking is atrocious. Then we have the "Useful Idiot" brigade taking these lies and repeating them repeatedly. Let's just hope the Independents don't fall for their ongoing lies.
     
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    "Part of the QPQ was during the call?" LMFAO!

    That's not how it works.
     
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    I think most even on the right know this was wrong, they just can't bring themselves to admit it
     
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    This is just ****ing absurd levels of idiocy.
     
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    What did Trump do that was inappropriate?
     
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    He deserted our former allies, the Kurds. He used them to fight ISIS, then threw them under the bus, to please Erdogan.
     
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    no one is buying that, it's obvious to everyone that Bieden is one of Trump's political opponents, gonna have to come up with a new defense of Dirty Donald
     
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    Says who?? Mick Mulvaney??
     
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    sad to say, but I think Palin would have been a better President then Trump... still bad, but better than Trump
     
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    Yep, that's it then, like I said in my previous posts, another liberal arousal goes to waste, another "any day now" wet dream is so wet that it slips out of their trembling hands. LOL

    And just like I asked in my previous posts, I can't help but wonder, what will them libs think of next? LOL :D
     
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    so now it seems like the right knows he did it, so they are turning to the old.... but it's legal due to a Twinkie defense ... lol, good luck with that - next they will be trying to use the insanity defense, saying he is suffering from dementia or something - maybe Trump's lawyer can use the insanity defense.....
     
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    Did what?
     
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    Did they not cover him on FOX?
     
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    Mulvaney never made the connection between the aid being frozen and Trump asking the Ukraine President to look into corruption.
     
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    So you just think he held up the aid to invesigate a conspiracy theory debunked by his own admin?
     
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    sure he did.

    u can keep ignoring it, but it did happen.

    Mulvaney said Trump did not like foreign aid, thought Ukraine was corrupt and was annoyed at how little “lethal aid” European nations provided to Ukraine as it combated Russia-backed separatists in the eastern part of the country.

    “The look-back to what happened in 2016 certainly was part of the things that he was worried about in corruption in that nation,” Mulvaney said, referring to Trump.

    A reporter told Mulvaney that what he just described was a quid pro quo. “We do that all the time with foreign policy,” Mulvaney responded.
     

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