Brexit Deal Agreed Between UK & EU / Can UK cope without Northern Ireland?

Let's make Northern Ireland 'EU having a finger in Brexit Pie'...

And still try for Singapore on the Thames in the event of no deal with Northern Ireland in the same boat too, witness the EU sort out their EU border UK doesn't want and make sure UK sues the EU for it as well as a bunch of stuff from protectionism to WTO recognition and every country's right to maintain status quo for up to 10 years after exiting European Communities have until a new deal is signed outside of EU's Lisbon Treaty obligation's that see's EU top of the queue by law and now have an event of no deal/crash out from the EU's Lisbon Treaty obligation which UK's done nothing but honour, and have a window of 10 years to seek a Brexit deal with more parties than the EU.

 

I prefer you to point out where I'm wrong given that this is a debating site. I'm willing to be educated........

 

Huh?

 

You heard me, the EU isn't the world, tell the EU to look at a WTO Brexit of status quo UK EU Brexit and crash out having satisfied the clock (having twice already missed the deadline) and be in a situation where UK's allowed to negotiate future trade deals outside of the EU and invite the EU to be party to those trade negotiations instead!

 

Is that how you get your thrills?
Ew.

Well, I am not your sex slave, go find another who wants to wear that gimp mask for you, I'm out, I can't help you debate something I'm agreeing to disagree with, I'm sorry, I glanced at what you posted and was like, screw that, I'm out.
It made no sense and was completely biased to staying under EU control and said everywhere but London which is a punch in the face to me in a retarded fashion, there, I said it, you virtually mentioned everywhere in England but London when it would have been quicker to have just said England outside of London - It was totally biased so I agreed to disagree because, there is no debating what you posted.

 

It seems to me the realities of today’s parliament is that the deal will be rejected and Boris will be asked for extension.
Now, this can go two ways from there: EU can reject extension seeing the prospects of next U.K. elections with Boris gaining support or they grant extension and Boris gets more MPs (judging by current polls). A third possible way is Parliament sacking Boris and Corbin taking over and doing another referendum, but if they are afraid of general elections I seriously doubt they would win that referendum.

 

A golden egg to the country who vetos extension first.

 

If I were Boris I’d try to strike a secret deal with Poland promising visa free travel for rejection of extension.
Refusal to extend is going to be the best thing that can happen to the U.K. I hope the EU sees that extension would just extend the inevitable. Maybe it’s better to do clean break, both parties suffer some pain and have more incentives to try to find common ground after Brexit happens.

 

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Can, can we do that?

Offer special travel rights for certain EU countries but not others - and make helping UK leave the EU by vetoing an extension the price for this visa free right to remain in the UK for its citizens as well as future travel too... This will help get past Brexit for everybody's sake and reward those who help get this done - Brilliant idea.

 

Shows you have no clue about EU politics. Poland is a "take-country" in EU. Thats the main reason why the EU stand united. As long UK is in EU, Poland gets more money.

And another thing, since Poland is in Schengen, visa free travel for Poland means visa free travel for all EU citizens.

 

No you cant. Since no EU country can make such a deal.

I actually like the deal now. It shows that UK gives up NI and in forseeable future Ireland is reunited again.

 

All they have to do mon ami is veto any extension proposed so it's not granted.

Then if they and UK want to say; you get visa free rights to UK for this veto, thank you - then so be it up to that one country (only need one, would be good if more, but, only need the one) to veto any extension ever proposed again should the new Brexit EU deal not pass UK Parliament and EU try to wrack up the votes to extend Brexit further.

 

No, visa free travel to UK, one way, not visa free travel to Schengen, Polish Passport get visa free travel and rights in UK if Poland vetos; or Portugal, honestly, anyone at this point.

 

Actually not. It would mean a gargantuan cut in subsidies to Poland.

That said, the entire show is absurd.

There was a women in our parliament from Scotland. She looked like a copy of Merkel but was hardcore anti UK. She made a anti UK speech. For me it looks like Scotland wants be like NI and NI gets basicly cut out of UK and becomes a hybrid?

 

Will UK also pay the gargantuan penalty put on Poland then?

 

Me too! To be honest.
I love Thin Lizzy and DeLorean as much as the next guy, but they are Irish too, but we're not.

 

No...
Why would anyone ever impose such a penalty for being culturally closer to a non EU country?
Not every EU country is ESTA to the United States, don't see any penalties for that.

 

You obviously dont know France. This whole Operation is their game.

Your media always blame us Germans but if you know how things work you know its the french who hold a grudge forever.

 

Our media blames no one but climate protesters in London all being optimistic about the deal (my news, not the news in Northern Ireland, different region, different country, I can only assume they hate the deal in Northern Irish news but I haven't seen it or read it online) and pessimistic about the Prime Minister being able to get the UK to back this deal in Parliament since 'the numbers don't add up.'

You see, our media LOVES the deal, but it is a numbers game in the UK and Boris Johnson's numbers just don't add up so it's very doubtful this deal will pass in the UK. - That's a free insight into my media atm.
Boris Johnson is now schmoozing everybody he can in a desperate attempt to get the backing he needs for fear of extension or general election paving the way for The Brexit Party/Nigel Farage as UK PM.

 

btw who is the Merkel clone that spoke in our parliament? It was kinda funny because when Merkel walked next her from behind you could not tell.

 

Idk, some Scottish lass who, if she had Theresa May's legs, I'd wish she did Playboy.

 

Guess I'm not the only one...

 

I digress, back in the EU, apprently there is very little appetite to discuss Brexit further, so;

If UK is forced to ask the EU for an extension, it is still up to the EU to grant one, and perhaps the EU won't and the Prime Minister won't break the law/Benn Act.

 

Yep, British parliament forced Boris to ask for extension. But they never said that Boris must make sure EU grants that extension.
So, while he can ask for that extension, he can simultaneously make deals with separate countries within EU to veto extension in exchange for visa free travel to its citizens, or some other mutually agreed upon benefit.

 

UK is not part is Schengen, never was.
So, they can pick and chose which country can have visa free travel to the U.K., even if that country is part of EU.
At least that would be my approach if I were PM of the U.K. Divide and conquer. There are poor countries within the EU that have veto power over entire block and getting at least one of those countries on your side is enough. Hell, UK can promise to take 1,000,000 illegals from Greeks if they veto. UK can then quietly deport them over time or keep them on special watch.
Lots of ways for Boris to keep his word and he can easily keep it if he is smart.