Why! won't Elizabeth Warren answer the question if Middle class Taxes are going to go up

No she will not, if she is successful, taxes will much lower.
You are not taking into consideration effect of health care cost reduction when private insurance companies will be kicked out of business.

 

And it is mostly because of defensive medicine, and bureaucratic overburden.

 

Utter BS. They might be better disquised but they certainly won't be lower.

 

I "conveniently forget" nothing.

The Congressional Budget Office data show that raising that kind of money would require a payroll tax increase of 39 percentage points, or a value-added tax of 91 percent – an enormous burden even for families no longer paying premiums.

The scale of the tax hike it would require probably explains why no one wants to talk about it seriously.

Elizabeth Warren has vehemently refused to say if the middle class would see its taxes go up to pay for M4A or how she would pay for this. As the Wall Street Journal reported, for instance, during the debate Ms. Warren, the new leader in the polls, was given at least six chances to answer yes or no. She ducked every time. “Will you raise taxes on the middle class to pay for it, yes or no?” asked one of the media questioners.”

And don't forget the $1.07 trillion for universal childcare, $610 billion for free college, $640 billion for eliminating student debt, $100 billion to combat the opioid crisis, and some other smaller programs.

As PJ O’ Rourke famously said, “If you think health care is expensive now, wait until you see what it costs when it’s free.”

 

Why not say it? Because it would be used as a soundbite against her, even if the whole sentence was "Total costs for a taxpayer will go down, but taxes will go up". Several Trump cult posters here have already indicated their willingness to lie in that fashion.

This is politics. Get used to it.

 

Oh, because public spending is so much more efficient that private spending?

We all know why Warren won't say who will pay for her $43 Trillion Agenda. Actually, I'm a little surprised that she didn't just like like Obama did about Obamacare.

And M4A isn't her only program.

Here’s a rundown of what she’s listed … so far … and the 10-year costs:

Green New Deal: $4 trillion “in green research, manufacturing, and exporting,” emission-free buildings, electricity, and so on.

Social Security expansion: Warren wants to dramatically expand benefits, which will cost taxpayers at least $1.8 trillion. She claims it’s all paid for by imposing a 14.8% tax on incomes above $250,000. But that income threshold isn’t indexed, so the hike will eventually bite the middle class.

Free college and debt forgiveness: $1.25 trillion.

Universal Child Care and Early Learning plan: $690 billion.

Housing: $500 billion to “build, preserve, and rehab units that will be affordable to lower-income families.”

Opioid crisis: $100 billion in additional spending.

Election “security”: $20 billion.

Broadband: $85 billion federal grant program “to massively expand broadband access across the country” and $2.5 billion “to help states develop digital equity plans and launch digital inclusion project.”

Job training: $20 billion on apprenticeships and training programs “for people across rural America.”

Then there are the various other billion-here-billion-there programs, such as the $7 billion fund “to close the gap in startup capital for entrepreneurs of color,” relief for Puerto Rico’s $120 billion in debt and pension obligations, and so on.

Add it all together and it comes out to roughly $42.5 trillion over a decade. In other words, Warren plans to nearly double the size of the federal government.

Every penny from everyone making more than $200,000 won't pay for it.
Double everyone’s income taxes as well as corporate taxes doesn't even cover just Medicare for All’s costs.

The wealth tax is wildly unconstitutional.

Hidden Taxes:
Ban fracking, phase out nuclear power, and force the country to 100% renewable energy in a matter of years — would cause utility bills to skyrocket. Her plan to force electric cars on the market would force sticker prices through the roof.

Warren would have to raise middle-class taxes. Massively.

She Knows it.
The American People Know It.

 

I'm a fan of more private vs public, I find that I'm more efficient.

not that I'll be fuming if it goes the other way, it is what it is, but my vote almost always leans towards the less public taxes candidates.

 

I'm not arguing that she has a lot of spending items on that list but I'm not seeing 43 trillion, its under 10. Which is major by itself.

what did i miss?

 

Medicare for all is $34T

 

Well, first off, if that we're the case, she wouldn't have such trouble saying so.

Also, I have zero faith that putting our govt in charge of something will make it cheaper. Instead of CEOs fleecing folks, corrupt bureaucrats will fleece folks, and we'll lose more to bureaucratic inneficiency.

 

Medical care was reasonable when it was just the patient and the doctor. Then a middle man was added -- insurance companies. Then another middle man was added -- the government. Now the patient must support all three, the doctor, the insurance company, and the government. All three have a big staff with a large payroll supported by the patient. Anyone who thinks adding more layers is going to give them cheaper health care is fooling themselves.

 

It is still nothing comparing to what private Health Care cartel take away from American people.
You guys to no understand that once government take over, there will NO need of private taxation that you currently have.
Health care prices will come down to the level of European countries, i.e. at least 50%.
Currently government spends about 20% for health care i.e. ~ 4000 billions plus about the same amount comes from from our pockets. In that case, 43 billions over 10 years it is exactly what people younger then 65 and their employers are currently paying for health care etc.

BUT!
Those numbers are calculated using current prices, however if power of private Medical cartel is reduced and bogus business (theft) of Health Insurance is eliminated the cost of health care will go down tremendously (at least 30%) at the beginning.

 

Medicare for all will remove health care insurances and extra cost for the doctors and medical services that people are currently paying.

 

She has never had a presidency of the US.

 

Isn't it amazing how the less taxes candidates and officeholders never really reduce taxes?

 

A vote for a dem is a vote to raise taxes on the working class

 

and for businesses..

 

Really? Oh you mean income taxes, yeah they do reduce them but raise taxes in other areas or raise the fee cost of doing business...With Trump it was the increase of taxes due to the elimination of certain write-offs on the tax form.

 

Haha the dems don’t or won’t vote to reduce income taxes, they will raise them and raise taxes everywhere else. A vote for a dem is a vote to make the working class poorer

 

I live in a state that is controlled by Republicans and taxes have increased especially real estate taxes...Now explain why that is...

 

What state is that?

 

I see... So since I have debunked this, you don't want to risk my debunking any of the other "lies". I understand. You want to keep some semblance of knowing what you're talking about despite the fact that you don't.

 

Missouri.

 

Didn’t you all just vote not to raise the gas tax?

 

Yes and that has what to do with real estate taxes?