Why! won't Elizabeth Warren answer the question if Middle class Taxes are going to go up

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  1. TheAngryLiberal

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    I HATE! it when a Candidate won't answer a simple question. Here Elizabeth Warren dodges a direct question about Taxes under her Presidency.

     
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    Because we pay two types of taxes
    1. Taxes imposed by the government
    2. Taxes imposed by private monopolies e.g. Tax imposed by medical cartel in form of high cost of health care.

    I do not mind to pay more public taxes but less private.
     
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    Lizzy realizes that most of the Democratic Party operatives who pose as journalists for the mainstream media will not push her on her schemes, thus she can dodge having to logically explain how her socialist policies will be paid for.

    It's what leftists do, this coordinated message coming from Democratic Party zealots in the media and those running for office...
     
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    Majority do not realize that they have to pay private tax imposed by monopolies and cartels.
     
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    True, but the average voter won't see the distinction. Warren needs to come up with a better answer that voters can relate to. She did look like a dodge, but not in her mind. She looked at costs, sure, but the connection between cost savings and taxes don't connect well. She needs to develop a better explanation. IMO.
     
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    I suggest she admit to raising taxes 1/1024th of a percent.
     
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    I guess she is on the corporate dole.
     
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    So basically you made up the concept of labeling a private purchase as a "tax", and then erroneously concluded that taxes will not go up. You ( and Warren) must truly think that your target audience is made up of bumbling fools.

    I don't personally believe that strategy is going to play very well to a general election audience. Time will tell.
     
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    then don't buy insurance. Save the money on both fronts and hope you never need medical care... Simple stuff here...
     
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    What tax? Buying into insurance is now a tax? In what way? I buy insurance on the unlikely event that I will need it. That isn't me being taxed, that's me being financially responsible for my own needs. I know, you don't get that...
     
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    Yes taxes will go up but my expenses should go down (in theory), because Warren understands what monopolies are and she is willing to fight them.
    In the last 40 - 50 years government supported monopolies, i.e. special laws for special companies.
    In the absence of competition monopolies dictate prices, their prices are much higher then market prices.
    The difference between market price and monopoly price is a private tax.
    There is nothing hard about that.
     
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    It is not going to work and you know that, because there is no market in the Health Care.
    Since Heath Care is governed by private cartel, the prices are dictated arbitrarily. They can charge you whatever they want without any kind of price list or the reference, so, no matter how much money you have they can take all of them.
    That is exactly why people are forced to buy health insurance. Health insurance business is pure government creation and has no place in the market economy. They are doing absolutely nothing but sucking the blood out of people.
    But people like you fiercely trying to protect their empty business from elimination, and that why people should vote Democrats (Elizabeth Warren)
     
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    Private purchase of health insurance is a private tax.
    I hope you understand that business of health insurance would not exist without government imposing those insurances on the people.
    Yes, people do not know about basic economics, market and capitalism, so they probably follow those, who supports corporate feudalism.
     
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    She Speaks With Forked Tongue

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    Liberal Think Tank Projects Jaw-Dropping Number For Cost Of Elizabeth Warren’s Medicare-For-All Plan

    $34,000,000,000,000 - M4A
    $20,235,000,000,000 - Annual GDP

    From the Atlantic:

    The Urban Institute, a center-left think tank highly respected among Democrats, is projecting that a plan similar to what Warren and Senator Bernie Sanders are pushing would require $34 trillion in additional federal spending over its first decade in operation. That’s more than the federal government’s total cost over the coming decade for Social Security, Medicare, and Medicaid combined, according to the most recent Congressional Budget Office projections…

    In recent history, only during the height of World War II has the federal government tried to increase taxes, as a share of the economy, as fast as would be required to offset the cost of a single-payer plan. There are “no analogous peacetime tax increases,” says Leonard Burman, a public-administration professor at Syracuse University and a former top tax official in both the Bill Clinton administration and at the CBO.

    Raising that much more tax revenue “is plausible in the sense that it is theoretically possible,” Burman told me. “But the revolution that would come along with it would get in the way.”

    No wonder Warren doesn’t want to talk about this.


    You are currently paying 7.65% in payroll taxes for social security and medicare, this would likely take it over 50%

    Does she really think people are going to stop asking questions, though?

    The only people for this, think someone else is going to pay for it, they are not. That's why she blusters and flusters when asked about tax hikes.

    This liberal think tank just hit her plan in the head with a tomahawk, speared it, then filled it with arrows.
     
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    Why would anyone expect Elizabeth Warren to tell the truth?
     
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    That's such irredeemable hog wash it scarcely needs a rejoinder suffice it to say that a good chunk of private care costs only exist because of the government.
     
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    I don't know what your mean. She answered that question in the debate.

    Warren: "I've laid out the basic principles. Costs are going to go up for the wealthy. They're going to go up for big corporations. They will not go up for middle-class families. And I will not sign a bill into law that raises their costs, because costs are what people care about."
    https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2019/10/15/october-democratic-debate-transcript/
    She's not my number one candidate, but she did answer the question.
     
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    Why! won't Elizabeth Warren answer the question if Middle class Taxes are going to go up

    because she will raise middle class taxes.
     
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    She of course lied.
     
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    The SC said it’s a tax! :)
     
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    I'll be happy to explain -- she has been caught lying like a dog more than once. I'm not going to list all her lies but feel free to educate yourself on Google.
     
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    It cost $18 billion a year for 44 million medicare recipients. Warren wants medicare for 327 million with only 76.4 million to pay for it.
     
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    You convientiently forgot that I and my employer are paying 1200 per month for my Health Care insurance.
    I am also paying 7.65% for Medicare even though I am strictly banned from government insurance.
    34 Trillions over 10 years is nothing compare to what people are currently paying to private medical cartel.
    Medicare for all will be the greatest tax break for people, small businesses and corporations
     
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    That chunk is what Americans overpaying for mediocre health care. US Health Cost is at least twice as much as in any other country. Yes it is no secret that U.S. government transfer public money directly to the pockets of private corporations.
     
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