I really thought I would be happier

This is a true statement.

Still waiting for the, "evidence," to appear. You would think that a deep stater in the IRS would have already leaked everything under the sun that was even remotely thought to be not legal.

 

The Trump administration describes Taylor as a radical left wing beaureaucrat out to destroy Trump. Is that what you guys are going with?

 

No it wasn't. It was a rambling contrived political narrative with no substance.

Mueller didn't even know what was in it. Weissman has since crawled back to his snake pit with a fat bank account compliments of the US taxpayers. But the bottom line is that nothing has changed.

 

We're going with the continuation of 4 years of the same ******* day after day.

You go ahead and put your hopes on Adam Schiff and the rest of the brain trust over on the hill.

 

I have yet to hear from Carl Bernstein who will tell me that this is the smoking gun that will put Trump away.

Taylor is yet another second hand composer in the mold of Adam Schiff. The transcript of the call speaks for itself and is void of any wrongdoing.

 

Let them go ahead and set the precedent for how to treat the next Democrat POTUS.

 

As divorced from reason and fact as it is from basic historical knowledge and Constitutional literacy. This is not a trial. Never has been. The trial (and it wouldn't be a criminal trial) would happen in the Senate. Their "duty" is to have a trial, not to brainlessly acquit.

 

Lindsay Graham may save the day for the Dems by condemning the actions of the House with a resolution to object to the actions of the House.

And as a result, the Senate would refuse to hold a trial in the Senate based on an illegally conducted House investigation..

 

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Split me some more hairs dude.

Lying democrat scum deliberately doesn't vote on impeachment in order to conduct a Kangaroo secret Stalinist which hunt and deny him due process, that both Nixon and Clinton fully enjoyed, prevent him from confronting, cross examining witnesses, calling his witnesses, reviewing testimonies, using subpoena power... meanwhile the libs shamelessly lie, spin, slander, leak, insinuate...

Does this sound better?

 

A trial in the Senate would be run just like a trail in a Federal court. Evidence and due process would be required. All of this House testimony would be inadmissible.

 

careful now. If your Left Control All Speech Dem party gets control, you may be banned and your firearm may be confiscated for having a dissenting opinion

 

It looks like Republican members of Congress are inviting themselves to Schiff's meetings this morning, and he's shutting them down as they enter.

**** Adam Schiff and his star-chamber nonsense.

 

Looks and sounds like textbook FASCISM on display.

 

Take it easy Dr. Evil.

 

The president does not get due process when it comes to impeachment because impeachment is not a criminal trial and Donald Trump the person is not on trial. Donald Trump the president is. Think about it like this if it helps. Donald Trump is the CEO of a company. The oversight board of the company feels he has acted in violation of company policy. They investigate. They then vote to remove him.

The CEO does not get due process or any other rights not granted to him by company policy, because he is not on trial as a person, he is on trial only on his role as CEO. Donald Trump will be impeached only for his role as POTUS, using whatever rules the Constitution provides for the impeachment process, which is minimal and does not include due process for the president. It doesn't even include the right for the president to have council.

It is also wrong to call the impeachment inquiry a "kangaroo court" since the House's role in the process is to determine whether or not there will be a trial at all by determining whether they feel there is enough evidence to warrant impeachment and the Senate trial that follows. So when you say "kangaroo court" I can only assume you mean the potential Senate trial, which will indeed be a kangaroo court if the Republicans all vote to acquit without considering evidence(which is a concern since several Senators have already confirmed, before the trial has even taken place and evidence presented, that they will not vote for impeachment).

They'll just be doing exactly what you guys are mad at the House for doing. Voting along party lines.

 

Since taylor has no first hand knowledge of the what Trumps plans were and we have the phone call what Taylor believes about it is largely irrelevant.

 

Basic Constitutional, legal, and historical literacy is not "splitting hairs." You seem to think that any regard for reality of propaganda is "splitting hairs."

Confronting, cross examining witnesses, calling witnesses, reviewing testimony and the subpoena power of the defense happens AT THE ****ING TRIAL, not in the grand jury, which is the closest criminal equivalent there is for Congressional impeachment proceedings.

Grand juries are held in secret. Defense has no presence in a grand jury. When they are given transcripts and other evidence presented at the grand jury, it is only AFTER the grand jury has concluded. Doesn't take a genius to see what that is the case. And none of this is a violation of the Constitution because THERE IS NO TRIAL YET. The due process rights you are concerned about are invoked AT TRIAL.

Sounds just as disconnected from reality and desperate to call everything "Stalinist" without any thought applied as the last post. So, no, no improvement.

 

Then you are, likewise, completely unfamiliar with the reality of the situation and/or what the word actually means.

 

I know that you will never admit it, but Taylor’s opening statement is very damaging to Trump’s band of imbeciles and their hairbrained little scheme. You are suffering from an acute case of TDS. Many of those who are similarly afflicted are eating jail food now and many others are all lawyered up.

 

Not "just like," but close enough, yes. Just like I said: all of the concerns Borat has will be handled AT TRIAL.

Lol, just like how grand jury testimony is inadmissible in a criminal trial? Sorry, but there is nothing to back up this claim.

 

OH good grief what's his evidence he said absolutely nothing that would be allowable in a court room. Hos opinion is no better than anyone else's opinion and that's all he's got.

 

No. It signifies the pseudo-patriotism that Trump and his supporters have come to embrace. Hugging a flag doesn't make you American or patriotic. You can't hug a flag while attacking our most cherished institutions.

 

I don’t know exactly what he said but I did read his statement and it’s pretty bad for Trump and his band of imbeciles including the 3 Stooges, Volker, Perry and Sondland along with mentally challenged nit wit legal council, Hand Grenade Rudy Giuliani. These guys remind me of that ‘80s comedy, The Dream Team.....lol

 

Just to recap: Trump's followers are now so desperate to push their victim narrative that they have to compare grand juries to "Stalinism" and "Fascism" even when due process is granted in the resulting trial, completely in-line with the Constitution.

Just more Trump alternate reality nonsense.