Has Trump lost your vote or gained it?

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  1. bricklayer

    bricklayer Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Did you vote for Trump in 2016 and do not plan to vote for him is 2020?

    Were you tricked out of voting for Hillary by the Russians in 2016?

    Did you vote for some one other than Trump is 2016 and plan to vote for him in 2020?

    Did you vote specifically against Trump in 2016 and plan to vote for him in 2020?

    Did you vote against Hillary in 2016 and plan to vote for Trump in 2020?

    Are you economically better off now than you were three years ago?

    Is America economically better off than we were three years ago?

    #walkaway #blexit
     
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    Thought Criminal Well-Known Member Donor

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    I didn't vote for any candidate for president in 2016.

    I will run to the polls to vote for Trump in 2020.
     
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    Kept my vote...
     
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    I did not vote for him and I will not vote for him
    No
    No
    No, I voted for Clinton because she was the better candidate
    Yes and No
    Same, no better, no worse
    Worse......statistically better but actually stagnant. Wins and loses are even.
    So you were a bad citizen in 2016 and a worse one in 2020.....there's a pattern starting.
     
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  5. God & Country

    God & Country Well-Known Member

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    I voted for Trump because the Democrat party was co-opted by a group of people who have no love for America and would destroy it. At that point I figured Trump couldn't be worse and it turns out that he's proven to be a very good president. That is why I will vote for him again but this isn't just about the next election. We have to light a fire under Trump and the GOP to do all they can to destroy the Democrat party, to make them irrelevant. There is no place in America for those who call themselves Democrats, the real Democrat party no longer exists. I think the best way to do this is to strengthen the conservative majority in the SCOTUS and at the federal level, the left has gotten away with their insane, morally bankrupt agenda for so long because of a weak SCOTUS and a exceedingly corrupt federal bench. This needs to change. There is a movement to get rid of a lot of deadwood in our government to dismantle the big government juggernaut. This is definitely the way to go, the federal government is a bloated overgrown bureaucracy wrapped in redundancy. It's like an onion with useless layer upon useless layer. The Dems were always against government shutdowns for fear that Americans would realize how much of our government needn't exist. We are presently witnessing one of many ploys the Dems have concocted to unseat a sitting president all of which were not based on actual crimes. The idea was to create the appearance of wrongdoing to oust the president and give cover to their own very real crimes.These people and all of their confederates belong in jail, not the government. We deserve a better government than what the left has managed to corrupt and certainly better than what they have planned for America's future. Many of us had lost hope until Trump came along and now have much to celebrate but there's still much that needs to be done.
     
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    I voted against Hillary in 2016 and will be voting for Trump in 2020. I voted for Cruz in the primaries.
     
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    I could see not voting for Clinton in the 2016. I can understand people voting for trump in 2016. However, since becoming president trump has successively shown himself to be the lowest form of humanity on the face of the earth and no one will have a constructive reason to vote for him if he makes it to the 2020.
     
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    Bluesguy Well-Known Member Donor

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    Yes

    Merely because the Democrats and MSM harp on "the popular vote" which is a meaningless number in our system of government.
     
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    President Trump has done more in a day than Obama did in eight years. The Obama administration was a criminal enterprise that enriched all of those involved and did nothing for America. During the Obama years America slid into the worst economic condition since the great depression. During the Obama years America nearly toppled in stature on the world stage. World leaders saw Obama for the stooge he is and were laughing up their sleeves.

    The Trump administration’s often overlooked list of achievements has surpassed those of former President Ronald Reagan at this time and more than doubled since the last tally of accomplishments after his first year in office, giving President Trump a solid platform to run for re-election on.

    Trump’s successes in reducing the cost of taxes and regulations, rebuilding our military, avoiding wars of choice and changing the courts rival those of all previous Republican presidents.
    President Trump is negotiating and renegotiating better trade deals, achieving free, fair, and reciprocal trade for the United States. Under that umbrella are eight trade deals cut with Japan, South Korea, Europe and China.

    President Trump is a truly unique leader in American history. He’s a kid from Queens who became an international business leader and made billions by getting things when no one said he could,” said Trump’s 2016

    4 million new jobs have been created since the election, and more than 3.5 million since Trump took office.Jobless claims at lowest level in nearly five decades.The economy has achieved the longest positive job-growth streak on record.Job openings are at an all-time high and outnumber job seekers for the first time on record.African-American, Hispanic, and Asian-American unemployment rates have all recently reached record lows. African-American unemployment hit a record low of 5.9 percent in May 2018. Hispanic unemployment at 4.5 percent.Asian-American unemployment at record low of 2 percent.

    I could go on but will just list some of President Trump’s many other accomplishments. Every single category had been woefully neglected by the Obama administration. The president has made substantial improvements in all of them.

    American Income
    American Business Repatriation
    Deregulation
    Taxes
    Infrastructure
    Health Care
    Law and Order
    Border Security and Immigration
    Trade
    Energy
    Foreign Policy
    Defense
    Veterans Affairs

    America is in better shape than it has been since we put a man on the moon and you want to impeach this man? For what, to replace him with a demented old has been, a screeching lunatic who lied about her heritage an lied about not lying? How about a doddering old Communist who would turn eighty in office if elected? Ain’t gonna happen, impeachment or whatever Donald Trump is your president until 2024. I wish it could be more.
     
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    If a sasquatch or mermaid were president and promulgated the same policies as Trump, and exercised the command of CIC the same as Trump, the sasquatch or mermaid would easily and certainly have my vote for reelection.

    There's nothing foreseeable that could change my vote for Trump.

    The alternative is socialism and wild immigrationism (the opposing candidate does not matter in this).
     
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    I had to hold my nose, and vote for the less of two evils in 2016. Hillary Rodham Clinton. Honestly, I'd do the same tomorrow if I had to.

    While Republican's would like to tout the employment numbers, its because people are working more than one job to make ends meet. And not just in the states with high costs of living. A bunch of part time work, two-three jobs each. Of course your numbers are going to be down. These unemployment numbers haven't solved income inequality, which is what was hutong voters pocketbooks in 2016 and is doing the same now.

    Because of Trump, I fear for our country a lot more. We are far more divided now than we ever were under Obama, our First Amendment has been attacked by attacking the media, the deadliest mass shootings in recent US history have taken place under this president, more members have resigned from this administration than the Bush Jr or Obama administration ever did in their eight years, women's reproductive rights have been attacked, the Supreme Court is slanted with far-right judges, our precious American institutions like the DOJ and FBI have been distorted, with attempts to sow distrust in those organizations. Fact check all these things, you will see from any given source I'm correct. If there's a party to #walkaway from, its the GOP.

    I eagerly look forward to voting for the Democratic nominee, its the only choice I have as a patriotic American.
     
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    Trump has delivered the results (it’s the economy stupid), your statement is one based on your head being buried deep in a dark and remote crevice.

    Best of all, Trump has shown how the democrats with press passes need to be dealt with. That’s my personal favorite thing about him.
     
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    I never voted for Trump and never would. As long as he has been on the public stage, I have seen him as little more than human garbage. Perhaps one of the most foul and corrupt individuals there is.

    And I have not been disappointed.

    Are they telling you on right wing media about how two of Trump's operatives were caught funneling Russian money into Trump's campaign?

    Trump can't tell the truth to save his life.
     
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    MANY employers have done EXACTLY what Target employees are complaining about after corporate America saw a huge tax reduction in Dirty Donald's tax cuts for the wealthy.Target raised the minimum wage they pay to $15 per hour but cut the number of hours employees worked down below 30 hours from previous 40 so that they would not have to offer the employees health benefits.So now they are making less WITH NO HEALTH BENEFITS.So in point of fact a significant number of Americans are worse off today than they were prior to Dirty Don,just look at how the homeless have increased.
     
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    Hillary convinced me to vote for Trump in 2016 and the democrats childish reaction to their loss made me a major Trump fan just because it pisses off the the malcontents. I suspect it will be the Russians pushing me to vote for Ivanka in 2024.
     
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    The last trade deal Trump announced was a rebranded NAFTA.

    Trump has repealed some of Obamacare's mandates, but the Trump administration as not announced a substantial replacement for healthcare. Drug prices are still through the roof for vital meds.

    The Trump Admin has failed on healthcare.

    The wall has not been built beyond that of a skeletal structure, despite Trump's party having the power to go full steam ahead for two years on implementing the wall. Treatment of migrant children has since been abhorred by both sides, by prominent figures like Laura Bush.

    The Trump Admin has failed on immigration.

    Failed to convince General Motors to return to Lordstown. Trump's attempt to was by "ordering" GM to via tweet. I'm not seeing any cars coming out of that plant, are you?
    The decrease in unemployment is due to the fact that people are working 2-3 jobs to make ends meet. The deficit has inflated immensely due to the explosive tax cuts in 2017, with economists warning of a recession in 2020.

    The Trump Admin hasn't hit the ball out of the park on the economy.

    These are verifiable facts I can think of in recent memory. I could go into the first failed measure of this administration with courts ruling the Muslim Ban unconstitutional, which honestly wouldn't help anyway since Muslim-based terrorist attacks have been homegrown. Or the fact the worst mass shooting in a religious environment took place under this mans watch. There's a good amount of evidence to show the country is actually more unstable now than it was going into 2017. Hate crimes spiked in 2017, and they weren't all necessarily committed toward Trump supporters. We have shelter in place drills for high schoolers that we didn't have before. There has actually been a jump in illegal border crossings under Trump, going back to the failure to fulfill his signature promise..

    Facts matter.
     
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    Are you in need of free stuff?
     
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    In 2016 I voted for the one who wasn't likely part of the establishment cabal playing two party political theatrics while sucking off the 'opposition' behind the curtains.

    In 2020 I'm voting for the mortal enemy of globalism.
     
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    I'll gladly put my taxes toward what will benefit me as a citizen, like healthcare, so thanks for asking.
     
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    I would certainly vote for him over any of the garbage candidates the dems have introduced. I mostly like what he has done. The only thing I am critical of are his environmental policies. Other than that he has done an outstanding job as president.
     
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    Nonsense.

    It's all about the JUDGES. You let the cat out of the bag in your last post.

    Federal lifetime judges....and more importantly Supreme Court Justices are virtually all Trumpers care about

    Be aware people.

    Trump and the sycophants in the Senate are in the process of reshaping our judicial system and NOT in a good way
     
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    Yet they are all in democrat run s hole cities. I wonder why?
    Also, Trump has nothing to do with how much a Corp (Target) pays their employees. How the F do you not know that??
     
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    Trump hasn't been the disaster I thought he would be, and the sad thing is he's better than anybody in the democrat's stable. I will probably vote for him in 2020, even though I voted 3rd party in 2016.
     

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