Trump calls for 'war' against Mexican drug cartel 'monsters' after Americans murdered

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  1. FatBack

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    How silly. News flash, the war monger lost and despite the dire "predictions" from the left, WW3 will probably need to wait for the next, Democrat, like the warhawk, Hillary.
     
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    Here is that members complete post you edited, and to think, earlier today you complained about your post, being edited...
    http://www.politicalforum.com/index...icans-murdered.563914/page-16#post-1071136383
    We legalized MJ in Colorado, the cartels haven't lost a penny, they can just now sell their product without the tax mark up. They are not stupid, they didn't throw up their hands and say "Oh gosh darn, I guess we lost Colorado now, let's move on" you can legalize every drug known to man and they are not going out of business. You have to give them one choice only, get out of the business and live or stay in and die. That is it.
     
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    "Trump calls for 'war' against Mexican drug cartel 'monsters' after Americans murdered"

    want to de-fund them... end the war on drugs... simple

    this would also de-fund gangs in the USA
     
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    did the war on drugs work? Are there fewer drugs today than when the war started?

    Remember, the abuse is there legal or not, just one makes criminals of those that did not abuse and funds gangs and terrorists

    "Drugs in Portugal: Did Decriminalization Work?"

    http://www.time.com/time/health/article/0,8599,1893946,00.html


    "Judging by every metric, decriminalization in Portugal has been a resounding success," says Glenn Greenwald, an attorney, author and fluent Portuguese speaker, who conducted the research. "It has enabled the Portuguese government to manage and control the drug problem far better than virtually every other Western country does."


    the war on drugs is a failure

    "5 Years After: Portugal's Drug Decriminalization Policy Shows Positive Results" April 7, 2009

    ]http://www.scientificamerican.com/article.cfm?id=portugal-drug-decriminalization


    ending prohibition is the way to go...

    when society thinks illegal equals bad and then finds that illegal doesn't always equal bad, it sends a mixed message to our youth, one that says it's ok to break the law because the law is just trying to prevent you from having a good time - same problem with prohibition of Alcohol that is happening with with young adults now, take away the right to go to bars and they went to houses to party and if your gonna break the law to drink, why not break it to do any drug, making it illegal for young adults to drink made alcohol a gateway drug - prohibition makes criminals of non-criminals

    "Ten Years After Decriminalization, Drug Abuse Down by Half in Portugal"

    http://www.forbes.com/sites/erikkai...lization-drug-abuse-down-by-half-in-portugal/
     
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    who is buying the drugs, as long as Americans need to buy drugs from them, they will supply them

    alcohol prohibition used to make it scary for your children or anyone really to go into the woods as they might accidentally run into a still - if people want things like alcohol or Marijuana, they gonna get them one way or the other - and someone will supply them as it just to much $$$ not too
     
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    And you assume the US hasn’t had and still has operators in Mexico and virtually every other country South of the border?
    And sure, we can identify and kill the bad guys just like we have been doing in Chicago and LA. Trump should get right on it.
     
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    So, what does MJ mean ? Without going off in some tangent....are you referring to Michael Jackson ?
     
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    Proxy war ? Who’s doing the fighting for us ? The Kurds ?
    We already supply most of the weapons for the cartel and then buy their drugs. Wouldn’t it seem logical to get our own house in order first ?
    How does one fight an all out proxy war, whatever that is, without affecting the economy ?
     
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    Reagan’s war on drugs worked really well....not. All presidents offered a solution of imprisonment for drug offenders. It amounts to imprisoning the poor first time offenders who can’t afford lawyers and letting the the others who can, go free....they can then keep distributing drugs. MOST opiate users started out with persciption drugs. The biggest violators are many doctors and the drug companies they represent.
     
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    Exactly. When people can manufacture recreational use drugs, including alcohol, on their own, it doesn’t do much good to criminalize it alone. Regulating it makes more sense. You still have abuse like we do with alcohol, but in the open, it’s more likely to be treated.
     
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    I could almost agree with everything, until you get to the part about Trump getting it right.
     
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    They come through a lot of ways, including overland. This isn't a secret. Also, so much human trafficking is done overland, which is just as big a problem as drugs. You are trying to tell me nothing illegal happens at our borders, and it makes you sound silly.
     
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    This was a Mormon famly, wasn't it.. What a disgusting crime.
     
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    This Mormom family had live in Mexico a long time. Why now?
     
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    That is probably happening as we speak. The Mexican Army also have a Special Forces. I think we are both on this and we should hear something soon. Trump is right in saying some sort of action is necessary
     
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    And the nation of Mexico only submitted the firearms it was certain came from the united states for tracing purposes.

    When the claim that is being presented, is that ninety percent of all firearms found in the nation of Mexico were originally sold in the united states, such is absolutely necessary. Otherwise it is nothing more than a deliberate falsehood attempting to push a purely political narrative at the expense of the truth.
     
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    That means Mexico is capable of tracing the origin of guns made and or sold in America themselves. Wow. We now know the deep state is Mexico. You’re hilarious; you are joking, right ?

    More then likely, it was the nra membership ads in the boxes they were shipped in that gave them away.
     
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    Haha
    Sure. An illegal is going to carry a 20 lb sack on his back while he gets bussed from Guatemala to a voting booth in Cal. to vote for Hillary. Gee, it’s so much easier and more cost effective then steering boat protected from sensors shorelines in an aluminum boat carrying a ton. Not. You are hilarious....joking right.
    90% comes into the US by boat and hidden in vehicles at POEs. Your bogus ideas come straight from Hannity.
     
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    Why don’t you actual post what I said instead of making s.h.i,t up.
     
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    On the silly scale, your post which completely misreads mine, scores 99 out of 100.
     
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    If there's 30,000 in the cartels, that's how many should die in near operations.
     
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    I was referring about the USA going into Mexico.
     
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    The cartels are terrorist organizations who have shown a willingness to kill family members of those in government. It isn’t like the US can do anything overt in a foreign country. This is why our own must Keep their identity concealed as well. Like always, it’s a clandestine operation and will remain that way.

    Trumps continual outing of anyone who disagrees with him, is damaging our ability to fight these wars. He’s a loser and has no place in public office and trust.
     
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    All we need is half-ways invite.
     
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    Sure....who is “ we”. We already have intel through out Mexico. Do we want the Kurds shipped over to do our dirty work here so we can then give them up again ? It’s not going to be inspiring for US personnel to be killed by weapons handed to them by the our lax gun laws.
     

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