5 winners and 3 losers from Election Day 2019

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  1. Derideo_Te

    Derideo_Te Well-Known Member

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    This is your BLOTUS's idea of a "class act"!

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    My father, his brothers and his generation fought a war to defeat that kind of aberrant emoting and many others sacrificed their lives. They would be mortified to see what your crass BLOTUS has done to their America.
     
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    kriman Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Show me a link that says that.
    I fought a war, one of my brothers fought a war and my father fought a war. None of us want to see a rise in Naziism.
     
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    Derideo_Te Well-Known Member

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    So then you must be opposed to your BLOTUS and his supporters who are embracing it, right?
     
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    kriman Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    He is both your and my president. like it or hate it. I don't like everything Trump does nor do a like people embracing Naziism. However, show me a link where link where Trump likes Naziism.
     
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    Derideo_Te Well-Known Member

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    Are you denying that your BLOTUS called them "good people"?
     
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    Businesses always make that threat, but in all reality, most of them don't (yes I know there are a few who do) uproot and move; instead they pass along the increased costs among the consumers. I wouldn't be too worried a mass exodus might occur.
     
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    No, your protected by the first amendment; a costume is much different then the real thing.
     
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    kriman Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    What he said was "There are very fine people in both sides". Meaning that in the demonstrations, there were good people who opposed removing the statues, but who were not Nazi's.
     
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    Your BLOTUS never made that distinction.
     
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    He did later. However, in the many thousands of demonstrators, are you denying that there was not a single person there who was not a Nazi, but opposed removing the statues? Not a single person?
     
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    Are you denying that your BLOTUS only did that later under PRESSURE because he actually does consider those scum of the earth to be "fine people"?
     
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    Are you denying that out of that many of thousands of people, there was not a single person in the crowd who opposed removing the statutes, but was not a Nazi?
     
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    Are you still denying that your BLOTUS only did that later under PRESSURE because he actually does consider those scum of the earth to be "fine people"?
     
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    I am not a mind reader.

    However, there were people in that crowd who were not Nazi's who opposed removing the statues. So, Trump was correct in his statement that "There were very fine people on both sides". I do not believe the statues should be removed. I am very much opposed to Nazi's. They are two entirely different issues.
     
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    Were you in that crowd?

    Yes or no?
     
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    In fact, the “Unite the Right” rally in Charlottesville — which left one woman dead and 19 injured — was explicitly organized by a group of white supremacists and neo-Nazis as a celebration of white nationalism. The official event was presaged by a nighttime parade in which rallygoers held tiki torches aloft while chanting, “Jews will not replace us!” and “Blood and soil,” a reference to a nationalist slogan used in Nazi Germany.

    “It is a misrepresentation of what was happening in Charlottesville to say it was a statue protest that went wrong,” said Nicole Hemmer, a presidential historian at the University of Virginia’s Miller Center who lives in Charlottesville and attended the rally as an observer. “Anyone who was there that day would have walked into a park of people waving Nazi flags and people who were Klansmen. It was not a secret who put that rally on that day.”
    https://www.washingtonpost.com/poli...4b7fc2-6b80-11e9-a66d-a82d3f3d96d5_story.html
     
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    Do you claim there was not a single person in that crowd who opposed removing the statues who was not a Nazi?

    Whether I was in the crowd has nothing to do with it. No. I was not in the crowd.
     
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    You have just made the following two admissions;

    Since you were NOT in that crowd and you are NOT a mind reader are you still denying that your BLOTUS actually does consider those scumsuckers to be "fine people"?
     
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    Thanks for providing that information. :)
     
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    Congrats! Let's celebrate higher taxes, sanctuary cities and safe injection sites. Woo hoo! Drinks on me!
     
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    I've had this debate before. It is revisionist history, essentially an attempt to justify (cover up for) Don's impulsive reaction in defending the white nationalists who support him, to say he was referring to people protesting the removal of statues when the protest was organized by United the Right..........a neo-nazi, white nationalist, hate group.
     
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    There were people in that crowd who were not Nazi's. The did not want the statues removed.
     
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    You are entitled to your OPINION but since you are NOT a mind reader by your own admission AND you have NO evidence to support your allegation you are still denying that your BLOTUS called those craven fascists in that march "fine people"
     
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    Can you claim conclusively that there was not a single person in that crowd who was not a Nazi"? You cannot. End of story.
     

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