WATCH LIVE: Public Impeachment Hearings

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  1. Nemesis

    Nemesis Well-Known Member

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    Rinse, lather, repeat.

    Terrible argument. :sleepy:
     
  2. Hoosier8

    Hoosier8 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Actually the cost of the Russia hoax Mueller investigation was closer to 40 million.
     
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    vman12 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Good, then it makes sense why Trump put a hold on aid and asked for a commitment against corruption.
     
  4. Hoosier8

    Hoosier8 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    But you agree with the dem clown show. Zelinsky is a weak leader that lies for Trump.
     
  5. The Mello Guy

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    It’ll benefit you as much as spent money will harm you
     
  6. The Mello Guy

    The Mello Guy Well-Known Member

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    So why’d he release the aid without getting it?
     
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  7. Hoosier8

    Hoosier8 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    The dem clown show is doing great harm to the country.
     
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    Ah, that was the number, last i looked into it, some time ago. Democrats are great at wasting OUR $
     
  9. Hoosier8

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    Because he was convinced, after counsel, that Zelinsky was on the up and up.
     
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    Everything is opposite world to democrat leaders. It has done nothing but harm to America, causing a deep rift in society.
     
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    lol you say lack of knowledge yet you don't even know that within the actual text of the treaty, requests of such a nature are required to be made by the AG (or their designate) in writing. If the situation is an emergency, then other methods are available, but the necessary written request must be submitted within 10 days of the non-written request.

    Also, Hunter has been on that board since 2014, yet only after the Dems accused Trump of using aid as blackmail for help against Biden, did the argument about 'corruption' be used (also, Ukraine has stated that the period of corruption that was originally investigated was prior to Hunter joining the board).

    Also, finally, I've yet to hear how or why the US wants Ukraine to investigate Biden (Joe or Hunter) for 'corruption' yet the only "evidence" is that Hunter is Biden's son, and had no LNG experience prior to joining the board, yet ignoring the fact that it's obvious he was asked to join for his networking connections, the same as the ex President of Poland Aleksander Kwaśniewski, as well as Joseph Black ex-director of the CIA's counter-terrorism unit under GW Bush. The board is perfectly within it's rights to appoint whomever it wants to it's board, so why we should care if Hunter was appointed because of his last name or not.

    Yes. I am. Also, thanks to whatsUp and interviews with his aids, we know that they debated on making the announcement because they needed the aid. So much so, that they scheduled an interview where they would make the announcement, but then quickly cancelled it when news broke in the States and the aid was released

    https://www.nytimes.com/2019/11/07/world/europe/ukraine-trump-zelensky.html

    Oh, and before you argue the same as the Bolded Portion

    https://www.axios.com/trump-impeach...aid-a9be7c06-3ea5-4d9b-801a-1cdf6877cc31.html


    Well, we have the diplomats saying this, one of the Giulianis' associates has flipped and is saying this, WhatsUp messages and individuals within Ukrainian Govt are supporting this. We even have Mulvaney saying it was.

    I mean, I'm not sure what other evidence would be necessary (i mean, besides Trump admitting ot it, but that's usually not something investigators get bequeathed with)
     
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    Did Taylor contradict himself? He said he did not see the transcript until it was released publicly in the beginning, but then in answering a question, I thought he said he saw it a few days after the call took place.

    Anyone else see that? Or, is there a transcript available to run a search on?
     
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    That's why he held it before the call and released it a month and a half later.
     
  14. Just_a_Citizen

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    And you have no clue what was said in back channels, and what's in the transcript in the secure server.

    Only thing I saw today, was Kent (Undersecretary of state) say Biden should be investigated, and Schitt and the rest of the DumboCraps, **** on the standing of the Ukrainian President.
     
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    Steve Scalise

     
  16. Just_a_Citizen

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    Only thing I saw today, was Kent (Undersecretary of state) say Biden should be investigated, and Schitt and the rest of the DumboCraps, **** on the standing of the Ukrainian President.
     
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    anything yet? Bombshell?
     
  18. Hoosier8

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    Ah, brilliant. The two witnesses today kept saying how important our relationship with Ukraine is and the dem clown show is calling the new President of Ukraine a liar. Such is TDS.
     
  19. Just_a_Citizen

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    Only thing I saw today, was Kent (Undersecretary of state) say Biden should be investigated, and Schitt and the rest of the DumboCraps, **** on the standing of the Ukrainian President.
     
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    Well, so far the only evidence of a quid pro quo is in the minds of the dem clown show even though there is zero evidence of one.
     
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    lol @

    The most explosive revelation came from Taylor, who told lawmakers that one of his aides overheard Gordon Sondland — the U.S. ambassador to the European Union and a top Trump campaign donor — on the phone with the president, during which the aide could hear Trump ask about “the investigations.”

    double lol @ "vanity fair".
     
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    And Crazy Uncle Joe with his "Tough guy Popcorn" like extortion.
     
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    thats^^ just posturing

    reality says it was boring and the there there came across as vague.. Thats not to say someone else may be more compelling for democrats case but those two weren't it.

    From a national security aspect it is true that under a previous administration no lethal aid was given to Ukraine even after Russia annexed Crimea.
     
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    In your little "political process", yes.
    Enjoy
     
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    For sure. Yet, one would think that if such a document existed, and it's existence would clear up all the issues around this phone call, then such a document would have been produced by now......

    *shrug* politics. The Ukrainian President still needs the US in it's battle against separatists and Russia. Plus it really really doesn't want to wade into US Politics, but it desperately needed (and continues to need) Aid from the US, so keeping the current guy in charge happy is likely priority number 1. I don't blame him one bit though, but as evidenced by his own staff, they only were going to make the announcement because of the Aid holdup. That they cancelled the announcement when the Aid was released is indicative that they only were going to do it because of the AID.
     

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