Ohio bill orders doctors to ‘reimplant ectopic pregnancy’ or face 'abortion murder' charges

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  1. Bush Lawyer

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    Am I right? This has become an abortion thread, and NOT ONE new idea will emerge. It is the most done to death subject on Forums, and I have never ever seen anyone change their mind on the matter. You have no idea what my view is on abortion, and I have never ever preached or evangelised on the subject. Link me to these 'several conversations' you seem to recall. You will find that the only comment I have ever made in an abortion Thread is along the line of how pointless it is. It never changes anything or anyone's entrenched view.
     
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    Of course it makes sense to you because it's following your political ideology. But it's the dumbest thing in the world. And I can explain how and why you would be against it if it was something you disagreed with.

    What he's saying is you can just break the law, and that you should because he perceives this as a right. But if I make the exact same gun ownership than you are all the sudden against it.
     
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    I don't appreciate posts like this


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  4. Bush Lawyer

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    What is my 'political ideology?' I have never expressed it here. I have taken a very obvious anti-Trump position as I absolutely despise the person as an alleged human being.

    No, what that bloke is saying is that the proposed Bill ignores the medical fact that the proposed procedure is unknown, and it means that a Doctor who fails to undertake a medical procedure they know nothing about, will be made subject to the death penalty. That is plainly absurd as the bloke in the video says.
     
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    I agree that the ones who made this ridiculous law knows nothing about science today, why you bringing Trump into this is anyone's guess
     
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    • Flamebaiting (Rule 2/3)
    yes you have. when you say you think Americans should be stripped of their rights to own guns you are expressing political ideology.
    <Rule 2/3>

    Try and be a little more reasonable in your positions and maybe you'll get somewhere. The fact that you're not is due to your ideology. Just like talking to a religious person. It's the exact same thing I've had the exact same argument just switch a few details.
    Watch his videos about gun ownership he makes a superb point.
    <Rule 2/3>
     
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    You can have your own doubts but not your own facts!

    Women with better means can afford both birth control and raising children which is why they represent only about a quarter of all abortions and those are probably because their birth control failed or they have other health issues.

    Women without those means cannot afford effective birth control and their abortions are subsidized by donations and they represent three quarters of all abortions. Another FACT is that the HISTORIC DROP in abortions has occurred AFTER Obamacare made it MANDATORY for women to receive FREE birth control.

    Blaming women for "careless behavior" and forcing them to give birth to UNWANTED children results in a much greater likelihood of those kids having a suboptimal childhood and doing poorly in later life. This also has a negative impact on any other children in the family.

    https://psycnet.apa.org/record/2012-11012-006

    https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/pdf/10.1016/S0968-8080(06)27219-7

    https://www.statnews.com/2018/12/05/how-abortion-denial-affects-children-well-being/

    Forcing women to bear unwanted children has far reaching NEGATIVE impacts not only on the children but also on society as a whole. These unwanted kids have a greater propensity for doing drugs and becoming criminals than their peers.
     
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    Some policies.

    Nope. I have a view on religion but I have never preached or evangelised.

    This is a ripper!

    Where on Earth did you get the idea that human beings do not deserve or have rights?

    Nope. I don't think criminals ought to be armed to the teeth, any more than I believe anyone should be so armed.
     
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    Once again..

    Who knows what those babys could become


    The next

    Michael Jordan

    Michael Jackson

    My girl whitney.. ( I miss her so much)


     
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    Having said that BL I have educated a hell of a lot of people in relation to contraception ( especially those who think condoms are reliable) and late term abortion (and those who think that women have same to fit into bikinis).

    I know I have changed a few minds who live in similar ignorance to those who drafted this bill.
     
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    You didn't change anyone minds, after dumb people like me read the article a few times, I realized it was ridiculous and not technology possible today.
     
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    that is attributed to your ideology.


    Here you are again doing what you complained about.

    if you want to stop that then don't contribute to it.


    again your political ideology is just like any other religion it turns off your rationale.


    Your view on gun ownership. I think people deserve that right. you do not because you think less of the people.

    Because you are against human rights.

    I am for them.

    These ideologies are unrecognizable you think humans should be subjects of the Rich and powerful and I think they should be powerful themselves.

    I believe in individual liberty you believe in no liberty
     
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    So by that "logic" there is a War on Women which is no different to the War on Drugs because the GOP wants BIG GOVERNMENT to dictate what happens inside their bodies.

    How are you going to feel when that becomes a War on Men's Prostrates and you are forced to undergo Anal Probes?

    In essence the War on Drugs is a massive FAILURE because you can't stop anyone from using drugs just as a War on Women won't stop abortions either. Making abortions illegal just means that more women will DIE because of UNSAFE abortions and more MOTHERS will be spending YEARS behind bars just because they had an abortion. Who is going to carry the cost of raising their other children?

    Placing STUPID restrictions on REALITY just turns ordinary people into criminals.

    Who wants to live in a society where you have to explain to your kids that mommy won't be home for their birthdays because she had an abortion and will be spending the next decade locked up in prison?
     
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    Nah.....just nah. It might be very late in the night where you are.
     
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    I really want to know why a woman would want to kill a baby that possiblity possibility could become the next whitney..

    Wow watch this.

     
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    What they do not “get” is that overturning roe v wade also overturns hippa and allows anyone access to any persons private medical records
     
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    No woman "prefers" having an abortion over using contraception.

    That is an asinine allegation without any shred of substantiation.
     
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    Yeah I'm sure you have some people are weak-willed.

    I'm willing to bet what do you think of people that aren't weak-willed are ignorant.

    I experienced the same exact thing when I came out as gay but from the "religious right" congratulations on being exactly like them.

    They wouldn't listen either it would just talk passing me just like you do.
     
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    No. It doesn't.
     
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    While I agree in principle that these threads do no change anyone's mind they do serve the purpose of debunking the DISINFORMATION that is used to nefariously deprive women of their rights.

    If you do not want to see any more replies to this thread have you tried clicking on the Unwatch Thread option at the top of the page?
     
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    This is not my first abortion thread
     
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    Don't change the subject.
     
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    Nah, I'll keep watching and hoping it gets back to the Topic......something to do with some crazy proposal in Ohio.
     
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    Or the next “baby k” https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baby_K

    2.5 years of institutionalised care with all that that costs, multiple admissions to ICU, for a baby born without a brain

    Meet the real reason for late term abortions
     
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    See that's the wrong fight with me, when my daughter was in the womb scientist experts said my daughter should be aborted,

    My now dead wife and I said No..


    Kourtney is now 23 years old perfect..
     

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