New documents show Trump kept 2 sets of books for his biggest property in Manhattan

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  1. therooster

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    Sure he was . Lets investigate shall we
    . I dont believe you.
     
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    Mount Rushmore.
     
  3. Egoboy

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    Technically, but you'd better have a decent reason to do it, and they clearly didn't... which is why Mulvaney spent the early part of August trying to get it justified after the fact...

    SNIP
    One person briefed on the records examination said White House lawyers are expressing concern that the review has turned up some unflattering exchanges and facts that could at a minimum embarrass the president. It’s unclear if the Mulvaney discussions or other records pose any legal problems for Trump in the impeachment inquiry, but some fear they could pose political problems if revealed publicly.”
    ENDSNIP

    https://www.mediaite.com/trump/a-wh...ify-hold-on-ukraine-aid-after-it-was-ordered/

    Hmmm.. if only there was a third party who could receive these records to determine if they DO post legal problems for Trump in the impeachment inquiry.... Where would such a group be found??
     
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    Investigate away. If he was guilty why did your fat assed orange buddy try to bribe the president of the Ukraine instead of opening an investigation through his DOJ?
     
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    So, you are ignoring your dishonesty? You get caught in a "mistake" and you just move on?

    The problem with you Trumpettes is that you understand nothing about Iran & Obama's approach. The hard liners are aging & the younger people want to be part of the world. The nuclear agreement went in that direction as did evening that old debt. Along comes your fast assed orange buddy & destroys all that work making the hard liner's work in Iran easier. He ends the nuclear deal & puts Iran back on path to nuclear weapons.

    Obama never worked against Americans like Trump has done. NEVER. Especially in exchange for his personal wealth.

    Trump is destroying America & you Trumperttes are too uneducated to know it.
     
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    Well you said this: "Your history has many large holes. 1. Whitewater had nothing -- zero, nada, zilch -- to do with Clinton's impeachment. 2. Reno had to convince Starr to move his investigation targets. 3. Clinton was not impeached for lying to the FBI. He was impeached for perjury in front of a federal judge and a grand jury, among other things."

    Did you forget that you posted it or are you menytally incapable of seeing how my post was indeed relevant.
     
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    Oh please , obama did more for muslims and terrorists then any Americans.
     
  8. Pred

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    Benghazi. Case closed. Obama had people blame the incident on a video to try and make it seem like it wasn’t a coordinated terrorist attack, which it certainly was. All for politics during an election cycle.
     
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    So, who do you think Trump will try to throw under the bus? Mick? Or Rudy?
     
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    Why not both?

    He certainly can't throw Rudy under the bus for the aid withhold, so that's gonna fall right on Mulvaney.... OMB has already said that the freeze came from Trump through Mulvaney, but THAT statement probably came from Mulvaney.

    But there is no bus here... this isn't a criminal case where you can trade up or down... one (large) man is the only target here....
     
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    Benghazi?

    Immediately after the attack, the video was considered a likely cause but an investigation was continuing.
    The video had just been translated & shown on Arab TV networks. There was rioting in many Arab city. Not, with all your intelligence, explain why Benghazi was immune to this & why it should not have been considered a reason to the attack.

    The truth, as if you care about it, is that the investigation later showed a coordinated attack not related to the video.

    The attack was two months prior to the election and the video as a reason was short lived outside of the lies from the right.
    A US Ambassador made a risky trip to an unsafe region & was killed. But don't you hesitate to fabricate stories to use as political fodder.
     
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    Oh please, Trump has made our air dirtier, water more polluted, created more dangerous work places & food supplies, bankrupted the American farmer, hurting manufacturing, skyrocketing the deficit, insulted our veterans, angered our allies, kisses Putin's ass, bribes foreign leaders for personal gains, stolen children at the border, stole military funding to build a stupid 40' concrete wall, and lies every day of his miserable life.

    Obama took us from the worst recession in 80 years, an economy shrinking at a rate over 6%, loosing 800,000 jobs a month, trillion plus deficits, a housing collapse & near financial meltdown to a long streak of continual job growth, cutting the deficit by more than half.
     
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    Who hired Mueller?

    What did the Clintons & Obamas get away with? Please be specific & not the typical crock you normally come up with.
     
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    Too bad we know people within govt were told the video had nothing to do with it at the same time the hoax reason was handed out to the media and retracted within days. Too bad our MSM are a bunch of hacks and didn’t fry those involved. Maybe FOX, but then they’re all racists because they reported the truth about Obama time and time again. How DARE they report things without Leftist spin guiding them.
     
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    I am sure there were differences of opinion. The video reason was short lived as better information became available.

    The reason was not a hoax. I explained this in an earlier post but evidently you prefer to continue with your misinformation.
     
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    I think I finally figured out what you are trying to say and that is whitewater did have something to do with Clinton's impeachment. (Tell me if I am wrong here.) My point was that whitewater had no role in the impeachment or in Starr's report to the House. You say they were related because Reno did not have to appoint another independent prosecutor since she already had one. That is a big ho-hum.
     
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    It was a coordinated reason they knew was false. Internal memos from Hillary showed they knew it wasn’t a video. They just used it as an excuse to spin, which they did. They made that **** up and they knew it. It was a hoax by definition. It wasn’t accidental or a case of them jumping to conclusions. It was damage control that backfired.
     
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    Starr was not appointed by Reno & Reno had no control over Starr.
     
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    Sorry but yoir ignorance is showing.

    The video had been recently translated & broadcast on Arab TV. There were riots in many Arab cities.

    So I will ask again. Why do you think Benghazi was immune from this action
     
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    Accept that isnt what happened and you are just making up things that simply arent true. Why are you saying things that arent true? What purpose does this serve for you?
     
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    I didnt know there was such a thing.
     
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    You try too hard to contort things to match your dreams. A little history 101. Reno appointed Fiske as a special prosecutor to investigate Whitewater, at the request of Clinton. Later they replaced Fiske with Starr but by then the independent counsel law had changed and Reno needed the concurrence of a special three-judge panel. That panel officially appointed Starr but that was perfunctory as it was Reno's decision and recommendation. And though the three judge panel oversaw the investigation, Reno directed, assigned and approved the investigation as Starr's boss. It was Reno that directed Starr to pursue the Lewinsky et al stuff, with the rubber stamp OK from the panel.
     
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    They can impeach him for committing a crime if they so choose, but the end result would only be an impeachment trail, not criminal charges. A separate criminal trial would need to be held to determine guilty or innocence, and sentencing if found guilty.
     
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    Because a video doesn’t create a coordinated “riot” with heavy weaponry against the US ****ing military. Intelligence reports revealed it wasn’t a spontaneous riot. Are you fracking kidding? Did you not read the reports and only get your info from MSNBC?
     
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    That's a different twist. Congress cannot constitutionally impeach a president simply for committing a crime. Impeachment has a much higher bar than that.
     

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