A Letter to Trumps' Critics--with a Psychoanalytic Approach

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  1. Natty Bumpo

    Natty Bumpo Well-Known Member

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    Trump being a slut is a big turn-on for some.

    Go figure.
     
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    Considering that the leftist media and dem leaders have been constructing a Godzilla facade around the president since the election started, I'd say those number are vastly in his favor-
    Once you allow for the group-think and no-think factor in the polls, the people that can't think independently and actually believe the hogwash they have been being fed for three years now.
    By the way, the majority of people are wrong most of the time. It's hard to change minds that let others tell them what to think. We still have people bound and determined to prove that the world really is flat, and all those pictures from space are fakes....

    IF we really were anywhere near as competent as a society as the best of us are at managing life's challenges, would we be in the mess we are in? Would be need drugs, alcohol, psychiatrists, massive support programs and huge debts yet still be struggling? No other species in the history of the world has had so much potential and yet done so poorly.

    We know the left would like to force Trump to come willingly to the gallows they have been building all this time. However, Trump is far wiser than they are, and he gives no authority to lynch-mob mentality.
    To do anything to legitimize that would be an offense to all Americans.... Except of course, those who have forgotten what America stands for.
     
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    What kind of person distributes private conversations that were taped without the knowledge of the person and used to malign them?
    Long ago, I was taught that this was not something an honorable person does, and it speaks to the character level of the person doing it far beyond the person they are trying to harm.
    Sad.
     
  4. Natty Bumpo

    Natty Bumpo Well-Known Member

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    Those who have been indoctrinated into the myth of the "leftist media" suffer from a paranoia that is not amenable to rational explanations - that media corporations are capitalist enterprises whose goal is profit, not petty political preferences (invariably, never perceived as favoring one's own), that there is a wide range of media perspectives readily available that are calculated to appeal to the various niche markets, and that everyone is free to follow the broad swath of informational providers or those that pander to parochial tastes.

    Ideological cry babies who have a persecution complex are blissfully impervious to such realities.
     
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    trump has said and done worse publicly so I am not sure of your point.
    Conversations that one believes are confidential often shine a light into the actual character of an individual that public statements. Your argument is one that the farms that are abusing animals try to use when they are caught, blame everyone but the culprit.
     
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    Sure. You were also taught that what Trump did is not something an honorable person does and, if you were being honest with yourself, you'd also condemn his character. But your standards aren't real standards in this case; they are fake and only serve your partisanship. The moment your partisanship is threatened, all of your standards fly out the window.
     
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    From a basal level, the difference between left and right is primarily based on the desire or lack therein for a larger or smaller central government with the notable exception of defense spending. Whether one desires a larger or smaller government is in no way a component of intelligence. It is a function of perspective. From one person's perspective, they may feel that society is best served with an all encompassing nanny state, and another may believe that society is best served by providing a much higher degree of self determination. One belief is not objectively superior to the other. It all depends on perspective, and how the individual believes that society is best served.

    With the above undeniably being true, I see you constantly braying about how you perceive Conservatives to be intellectually inferior. In truth, the inability to differentiate between perspective and intelligence doesn't necessarily reflect all that highly upon one's intelligence. It does however reflect highly on the d-bag scale, especially given the incessant frequency with which some choose discuss this topic. Give it a rest......yeesh, it feels like you discuss this topic daily.
     
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    What qualifies you "to make such determinations"?
     
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    And that is a pretty good description of today's left. Have no idea how offensive or dishonorable their own actions are, and claim the high ground from the bottom of the pit- and still digging.
     
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    The pseudo scholarship of the right. Yes. A sad state of affairs.
     
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    Ummm . . . the Left gain control of most colleges and universities long ago and that's why most of the won't hire any conservative dumb enough to admit to being a conservative.
     
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    LOLOL.. Is this your victim statement?
     
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    I think that the divide you are claiming has more to do with ideology than reality. It repeatedly occurs to me that Republicans would prefer a police state. To keep everyone in line. As long as the police state is enforcing conservative prejudices.

    I have always lived in liberal areas and have never heard a liberal individual proposing the nanny state conservatives are always babbling on about. The cradle to grave nanny state is mostly a Republican fabricated faery tell.

    In fact, it seems to me, the more conservative an area, the more likely the iron hammer of the criminal justice system is to fall on one. And looky looky, the states with the highest rates of incarceration are in highly conservative states, with the liberal states having much lower rates. It is kind of hard to have rights and freedoms in s jail cell.

    Liberals are about expanding rights and freedoms. It is why liberals have always been in the side of helping women, Blacks, Indians, and others to gain full voting rights. In liberal states like Colorado, Oregon, and Minnesota, a higher percentage of the population votes than the national average. Bible Belt states tend to have lower than average voting rates, helped along, I’m sure, by voter suppression efforts. The legalization of marihuana has mostly been the result of efforts of liberal individuals, and it was in liberal stares where same sex couples were first allowed to marry.

    I am a strong liberal, and as such am quite anti authoritarian, and have always had an aversion to authority. Which brings us to another difference, conservatives like to push the authority of their religion on others, while liberals would rather there be no religion filling people’s heads with things that aren’t true.

    I think the government should concern itself with the commons, like roads, schools, parks, and the water supply. Public health should also be a priority. I also think the government has a role in assuring that individuals do not exploit others. Beyond that everything else is wide open to the people.
     
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    Is that why democrats want to limit free speech and the second amendment?
     
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    You mean just like Trump?
     
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    How so, by practicing his free speech? <Rule 3>
     
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    Not a lefty, and I mean by suggesting that the 1st Amendment be changed, engaging in frivolous lawsuits to try to silence free speech, and suggesting that due process be taken away from gun owners. Trump has done more to directly attack free speech than 99.99% of the leftists that you obsess over.
     
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    It appears that someone was unable to mount a credible counter argument so one just went with bumper sticker propaganda.
     
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    So you first present the democrat position then make a baseless claim Trump is attacking free speech by using free speech.
     
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    There would have to be a credible statement first so...
     
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    I said he wants to limit free speech. He does, and he has attempted to do so through frivolous lawsuits. Your assumption that someone must be a Democrat in order to recognize objective reality is a false one.
     
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    So you don't like Trump using free speech. Thanks for proving my point.
     
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    You are missing the point. The different belief systems are about differing perspectives rather than objective intelligence. There are highly intelligent people on both sides of the divide. Your seemingly daily misplaced gloating on this topic is obnoxious. Ironically, your persistent inability to differentiate between perspective and intelligence does not speak very highly of your intelligence. If anything, it indicates a myopic mindset, which isn't exactly an indication of high intelligence.
     
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    The usual 40% of Trumpets. They would stick by Trump if he murdered Mother Theresa. They don't know why, and they can't support him in the impeachment inquiry.

    They adore Trump because he is much like themselves.
     
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    Making up stuff and refusing to read the posts you are pretending to respond to isn't a "point." But keep supporting the actual free speech hater. I guess some people care about hero worship more than principles.
     

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