Will You Still Vote For Trump If He Gets Impeached?

You know well what crimes he committed. He used his power to withhold aide from Ukraine so they would launch an investigation into his political rival's son.

 

You know what well the crimes the LWs committed..the boy who cried wolf way to many times

 

Abuse of power is not a crime? And obstruction of justice? I would agree that the evidence is weak for the obstruction charge, but it is a crime. In either event, the evidence is basically insurmountable for the abuse of power charge. Trump absolutely unquestionably abused his power.

I'm supporting the premise that a future president should not get away with abuse of power. As I said, I think the obstruction charge is weak (despite Trump's obvious stonewalling and claims of executive privilege solely for political purposes) and not to mention unnecessary. Trump's blatant abuse of power is enough for me.

In what way is it unconstitutional? Even if you're referring to the obstruction charge, it is at worst case unfounded, in which case it shouldn't survive in the Senate. But if you're referring to the abuse of power charge, I can't imagine a more appropriate impeachment charge.

Oh please. You're throwing around the word unconstitutional without any idea what that actually means.

 

Great retort. (Not.)

 

Dont give us any of that nonsense

When one crys about losing an election for three years it has nothing to do with Trump, he is just in the way.

 

The impeachment is a farce. I’ll vote for Trump early and often.

 

To each his own.. that is the exact sentiment that I had about Obama voters. I was smart enough to see thru his bullshit the first time but millions were hoodwinked, then after he blew up our health care and ruined it for tens of millions of people, ran guns to Mexico, lied repeatedly to the country , and use the IRS as a personal attack dog I said that people voting the first time can be forgiven, people voting for him the second time, there is no excuse there is no forgiving you.

We are exactly aware of what is going on. Booming economy my 401 K up 32% in 11 months. No more groveling to foreign leaders, what an embarrassment Obama was on his knees all the time. A first lady to be proud of not embarrassed by, The only thing Trump lied about was he said we would get tired of winning and he was wrong about that.

 

The point, in this case, is to pin a scarlet letter on him.

 

No, the aid was contingent on Ukraine demonstrating anti-corruption reforms. Zalenski was elected on an anti-corruption platform.

Biden and Barisma were part of that corruption.

Congress attached those strings, not Trump. And it was the Obama Administration that originally raised a red flag at Biden's dealings over there.

As for Biden, he was patently guilty of corruption - to deny that is absurd.

 

I will be voting for Trump in 2020.

I'm a libertarian and voted for Johnson in '16.

 

If that’s true then why did Trump deny it was contingent on anything (no quid pro quo)? Oops. It’s pretty damn obvious from the phone call what it was specifically contingent on.

His son might be, but there’s zero evidence the father did anything unethical.

 

I also voted for Johnson in ‘16. No chance in hell I’ll vote for Trump, or anyone who comes across as an obvious conman or has extremely poor character.

 

It's written in the statute.

His bragging about at the CFR is all over the internet. "I'm leaving in 6 hours... fire the prosecutor or you won't get the $$$"

Did you miss that??

 

I don't like Trumps manner, antics, tweets, etc., but he's doing a lot good and necessary things.

The alternative is the Establishment status quo (Republican or Democrat), i.e. death by 1000 cuts.

 

I of course will!!!!

 

I think the most dangerous thing on the horizon for our country is the likelihood that the next Democrat elected will move to fully weaponize the agencies.

They're already weaponized to a large degree now, which is slowly being exposed with the Horowitz report and soon to follow Durham report; but, the fact that the FBI, DOJ, and CIA would act so illegally and brazenly in an attempt to thwart a political rival is evidence of just how close we are to becoming a police state.

The things done by Comey, Brennan, Clapper, Strzok, Page, Rosenstein, et al, go beyond the pedestrian abuse of power, they are, in fact, police state tactics.

These abuses are exactly why libertarians were opposed to the Patriot Act which is what set up the infrastructure from which a police state could be built.

America really is in a very dangerous position. Not b/c of Donald Trump, but b/c of the radical left and their authoritarian agenda.

 

These people aren't the radical left. They're something else. I don't know what to call them, as they seem to cross the party lines.

The radical left is an entirely different problem. Although, to some extent, these establishment people appear to be making use of them.

 

It was perfectly legal, then why did Trump deny doing it? There’s nothing wrong with a quid pro quo if it’s for legitimate reasons (national interests, in line with national policy). The only reason he would deny there being a quid pro quo is because there was something dodgy about the nature of it.

This was an example of a legitimate quid pro quo. To claim otherwise, Biden would have be some sort of Jedi mastermind to orchestrate not just the U.S. government but also the international community and the IMF to be in on a conspiracy to allegedly help his son, because they were all calling for that prosecutor to be removed for not being aggressive enough in going after corruption in general even before Biden got involved.

 

Nope.

 

Lol. Dizzy after reading that spin

 

What gets me is some people actually believe Trump is cleaning up corruption of both parties when he’s got one of the two corrupt parties swearing allegiance to him like he’s a king. At this point I think the only people who support Trump are those who were party-before-principles Republicans all along, or those who want to see the world burn.

 

We don't want your forgiveness, what we want is your agenda to fail. You folks have proven nothing. Trump was exonerated of collusion, and this new clown show is only convincing people that Democrats are nothing but cry babies...

 

It wasn't a "quid pro quo" for his purposes. He simply stated that he wanted Zelenski to investigate the corruption.

If Trump asking for an investigation into corruption is evidence of corruption, what is Biden's using US $$ as leverage to shut down that very investigation??

FYI, since all this went down, the President of Burisma has been indicted.

Don't know how you can argue that what Biden did is legal or ethical.

There was a prosecutor investigating the company of which his bbc son sat on the board.

He told the then President, " fire the prosecutor or you won't get any US taxpayer aid".

That is straight up corruption.

P.S. FYI, the IMF is the "central bank for central banks". It is the purest incarnation of corruption.

 

Democrats know a lot about blowing the whistle. Just ask Monica.

 

Translation: protection for democrats children working for corrupt companies in corrupt countries should be protected at all costs.