Read: Trump letter to Pelosi on impeachment

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  1. DaveBN

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    You must have experience with some sophisticated Bots. Maybe I have to. Could just be I’m a poor administrator of Turing tests.
     
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    Nah learned about armatures in high school electronics 50 odd years.
     
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    I know. Trump is being impeached based on the Democrats pretending they could read his mind as to what they think his motivations and intentions were. Basically charging Trump as guilty of a secret, hush-hush, completely undocumented, evidence-lacking, albeit failed attempt, at a quid pro quo, that Zelensky digs up dirt on Biden.

    The curious thing is, the Democrats never identified what form this so called "dirt on Biden" would take. The dirt is that Biden admitted while he was VP, he used of $1 billion in US aid to coerce Ukraine into firing a criminal prosecutor who was investigating Hunter Biden's former employer.

    That's really bad. So what was the political campaign dirt Trump was supposedly looking to get on Biden beyond that?
     
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    You’re second paragraph is loaded with disproven lies. I don’t know how the right continues to spout that nonsense.
     
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    What lies, much less disproven??

    First of all, what was the dirt Trump was supposedly seeking on Biden? Secondly, Biden is on tape admitting to what he did.
     
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    The so called victim - Zelensky, has said many times that nothing like Pelosi is accusing Trump of ever occurred. So how on earth will Pelosi ever allow for anyone to exonerate Trump, the defendant, if Zelensy already has?????

    The defendant - Trump, and the victim - Zelensky, are both guilty of not disproving to Rep. Pelosi what she accuses Trump of secretly wanting to do.

    If you cannot disprove your guilt, you are guilty as accused. The new law of the land if we allow Democrats to gain power.
     
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    And for the next 11 months, Pelosi and her gang can just accuse Trump of whatever made up crimes they like, and it's up to him to disprove his guilt, or he'll remain guilty as charged, and they can impeach him again, and again.
     
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    What about Trump making fun of the disabled has been debunked?
     
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    The dirt Trump sought was the publican announcement of debunked conspiracy theories. Trump’s favorite kind of conspiracy. (Birther)
    Biden is on tape bragging, distastefully, that he enacted the policy of the EU, IMF, USA, and the majority of the western world. How do you suppose Biden got everyone on board with protecting his son?
     
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    No reason to reimpeach. The House have spoken on the matter, and the Senate will speak on the matter. Trump will forever remain one of the few disgraceful presidents to have ever been impeached.
     
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    Zelensky, rightfully, believes Trump will see no repercussions. Regardless of what he has to say, or how he felt about the call; Trump will remain President through the remainder of his term. He will have to work with Trump, and he knows, facing a war with Russia, he needs all the friends he can get. It doesn’t matter if those friends are abusive as long as they are still friends.
     
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    When you are talking to morons, they don't understand conventional adult statements. You have to rattle their cage just to get their attention- and may well need a cattle prod to back you up.
    I think we need to grant the president access to and free use of a really high power one in dealing with the morons he has to deal with on the left side of the aisle. And allow similar authority over deranged MSM talking morons too..... Just being fair here.
     
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    A) Find me a statement where Zelensky says Trump did not abuse his power or that Trump did not Obstruct Congress.

    B) It is very rare that a public, non sworn statement from the supposed victim is dispositive as to whether a crime took place. Abuse of Power and Obstruction of Congress are not such examples.
     
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    Only the same one every other president has used executive privilege.
     
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    There is no such crime as Abuse of power and it is only obstruction of congress after it has gone through the courts, and the courts have sided with the house. Nancy Schitt and Addled couldn't afford to wait that long. The closer it got to the election the worse it was going to be for them and they know it.
     
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    Trump could tweet Pilosi about his plea, as he always does.
     
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    Your BLOTUS was DEMANDING that Ukraine make a PUBLIC ANNOUNCEMENT of an investigation into the Biden's. That would IMPLY that they were involved in something illegal. It would never have to be proven because just the announcement would be DAMAGING to Biden and to the DIRECT PERSONAL BENEFIT of your BLOTUS in the 2020 election.
     
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    Trumpette's are completely fudged.

    Alexander Vindman testified that he found Trump's Ukraine call "troubling and disturbing"

    READ: Testimony Of Fiona Hill, Ex-White House Russia Policy Official

    Read the full transcript of top diplomat Bill Taylor's impeachment testimony

    Read the full text of the whistleblower complaint over Trump-Ukraine call

    Read Kurt Volker's full testimony in the impeachment inquiry

    Diplomat says of Trump Ukraine call: ‘I remember it vividly’

    Gordon Sondland’s Testimony Is Damning for Trump — and Himself
     
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    This is why I don't bother responding to most of these Left of Center posters since they insist upon recycling 'facts' that have already been officially busted via real investigations or readily available evidence. These are the very people who KNEW that Mueller was going to end up proving a Trump/Russia connection which would destroy President Trump despite the Right endlessly producing readily available facts running counter to their political narrative.
     
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    Those are impeachable offenses.

    Source: Yesterday.
     
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    Great post!

    Our President has been truthful from the time of his 2016 campaign. It's the liberals that have lied like there's no hell since JFK or even FDR. Many of them are thoroughly crooked and and totally irreverent.

    Anyway, here's another copy of the President's tremendous letter!
    https://www.whitehouse.gov/wp-content/uploads/2019/12/Letter-from-President-Trump-final.pdf
     
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    Sad that anyone believes that the BLOTUS has not lied 15,000 times!
     
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    You can call anything an impeachable offense. All it requires is really low standards or sufficient desperation or some combination, and a bit of personal antipathy. That doesn't mean any one else is required to take your gobbledygook seriously.
     
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    You don't have to take my gobbledygook seriously.

    You do have to take the Record Setting vote to Impeach Trump for those two articles seriously.
     
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