Iraqi TV: Iran’s Gen. Soleimani killed in Baghdad strike

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  1. Bluesguy

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    You experiment as we did, you don't have one in your arsenal nor one planned from I have read. You don't need one of our ships to test one yours will do nicely.
     
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    It is not

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diplomatic_mission

    Contrary to popular belief, most diplomatic missions do not enjoy full extraterritorial status and – in those cases – are not sovereign territory of the represented state.[11] Rather, the premises of diplomatic missions usually[example needed] remain under the jurisdiction of the host state while being afforded special privileges (such as immunity from most local laws) by the Vienna Convention on Diplomatic Relations. Diplomats themselves still retain full diplomatic immunity, and (as an adherent to the Vienna Convention) the host country may not enter the premises of the mission without permission of the represented country, even to put out a fire.[12] International rules designate an attack on an embassy as an attack on the country it represents.[citation needed] The term "extraterritoriality" is often applied to diplomatic missions, but normally only in this broader sense.
     
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    https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/bushs-verbal-gaffes-caused-by-dyslexia-z0jjg8k7xpm

    Bush is dyslexic. Its not my fault you vote such retards in high office.

    Trump is even worse. Its said by german diplomats he has the intellect of a goldfish. When explaining something at meetings, they use card boards and colorful pencils. And even then he doesnt get it.

    When Merkel visited Trump he is said to have told her 6 times that he wants "an awesome trade deal" with Germany. 6 times she responded that she cant negotiate that.

    Part of the breakdown between Germany and USA is, that our leaders find it difficult to adress issues in a childlike way, so Trump understands it.

    Former chancellors like Kohl propably would have been able to do so. He could down his speeches on audience level.

    Before you say thats just Germany saying, the british ambassador said it as well, that Trump is mentally challenged.
     
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    We invited your F-35 to Berlin Airshow and said we might buy hundreds for our fleet renovations. USA did send two machines to impress the audience. Was longest F 35 flight ever and even needed refueling over atlantic. When they arrived they saw it was a trick. Germany never intended to buy, we just wanted test our new passive radar on them.

    In a Iran USA conflict we could test our weapon systems without being held accountable. Germany is 3rd largest weapon producer in the world, even before China, UK and Israel. With real combat data we would get a sales boost.
     
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    ~ If Her Majesty Ms.Merkel does not contribute fair share to NATO Germany may very well need to do just that. Trump is ending the "USA is a sucker" regime.
     
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    What will you say when we lose an aircraft carrier or two?
     
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    You'd rather bend over and take it just in case?
     
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    How about just leave? Do you expect Iran to bend over? Its a honest question?

    Whats your plans? Its obvious Iran wont become a vasall. So what do you plan?
     
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    We put ourselves in that situation by letting foreign agents control our government. There is zero guarantee that we will win if we are walking into a trap. We have already spent $trillions that we could have used to build a better country for ourselves. and we still haven't won.
     
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    Sounds like he plans to die in a distant land for no good reason.
     
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    He was an enemy combatant and was on the battlefield.
     
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    That's a different discussion.

    It's their country.
     
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    You are not at war with Iran. So you say Iran now has the right to take out Pompeo?

    You know what german foreign minister Maas said? USA does same mistake again and again. They just think about their next move and never keep the game up and because of that, they always lose in the middle east.

    The supreme leader of Iran already announced yesterday that there will be a massive counter strike.

    And Iran has all cards at its hands. USA can not afford a massive war against a nation of 80 million. Even more so in the election year.

    Infact after this escalation, Iran not even has a choice but to strike back.
     
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    ~ What did you say after 9-11 ...?
    ~ Agreed. Now we must deal with the mess created by previous administrations going back decades. Very difficult but not impossible.
     
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    I say that Soleimani was leading attacks against the US. That makes him an enemy combatant. He was on the battlefield. That makes him a target.

    If Iran wants to sanction, or officially endorse, his activities, they can declare war on us.
     
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    No, i assume Iran will push US presence out of the middle east.

    You declared war on Iran yesterday. And its a war you cant win.
     
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    I doubt that any such war will happen. But, we'll see.
     
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    Their leader already said there will be a massive counter strike. Iran doesnt even has an option. They must strike back to save face.

    So after this you assume USA just drops out and leaves?

    Thats exactly the lack of planning we see.

    USA cant afford a war with Iran, it would only lead to victory of China and Russia in the region.

    By attacking and killing the general, USA set something into motion. Now Iran will react. How will USA react on that?
     
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    Diversions now........?
     
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    When you have something mentally challenging to discuss let me know I could care less about foriegners sophomoric ad homs.
     
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    Is it? I believe the very fact that Trump doesnt understand complex arguments is a big problem in diplomacy.

    Btw, Germany now publishs internal USA security informations, which is gloated in Iranian news.

    We made public that you move troops out iraq and fear global attacks against your government staff and diplomatic corp.
     
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    If you are trying to convince anyone that Germany will be an Iranian ally in the coming war with Iran, you're doing a good job.
     
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    We stand for ourself. We dont side with Iran. We dont side with USA either.

    You should be happy to have critical allies.
     

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