Iraqi TV: Iran’s Gen. Soleimani killed in Baghdad strike

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  1. Lil Mike

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    I don't agree with anything you said, but I do appreciate you posting that since I always find it helpful to get a glimpse at how the left thinks.
     
  2. Lil Mike

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    They are good allies to the Iranians, although sort of undercover ones. It's a typical European play. They vote for sanctions, and then violate sanctions and help their companies violate sanctions. They hope in this way they buy protection. It's a modern version of paying the danegeld only in this case, the Germans are making money on the deal as well.
     
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    OK. I am done with you.
     
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    Enemy? we are not at war in Iraq. And he was not on a battlefield. Look, this was an effective move eliminating a singular effective opponent. But we are not at war with Iran and he was a political leader. This is not taking out a terrorist without a country like Ben Laden. This is a giant provocation and in no way leads to peace.
     
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    You don't agree that we have good relations with Vietnam 40 years after killing millions of their people?

    You don't agree that if we had left them to their own devices in their own countries that we would have better relations with them than what we do now?
     
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    Are you kidding? This guy masterminded Iran's terrorist campaign throughout the middle east. Here's a recent photo;
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    Thank god Snake Eyes got him!

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    Maybe we can prevent a war.
     
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    I think it's ridiculous to try to draw a comparison between Vietnam and the Middle East. Like I said, I disagree with everything you said in that comment. There are people in Vietnam alive now who've lost family members to US forces and they are not conducting terrorist attacks against American tourists or expats. We've fought very bloody wars against the Germans and Japanese in living memory and have excellent relationships with both countries (@Sobo excluded of course!).

    Meanwhile the Middle East kinship societies hold centuries of grudges and are unable to form real (in the Western sense) nations as a result. But like I said, I found your perspective very interesting and it was enlightening on how leftist foreign policy constantly manages to get things wrong.
     
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    What makes you think you have not excellent relations regarding me? Im critical. That makes me an enemy?

    Beside that you say Iran is not a real nation? Iran is one of the oldest nations on this planet with nationship predating any western country. Its the only nation in the middle east in that aspect.
     
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    So? Plenty of evidence Ukrainians tried to interfere in association with some dems.
     
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    OK you support Iran, I get it.
     
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    I have friends in Iran. Very nice people. How many iranians do you know?
     
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    You don’t deny you support Iran’s terrorism and killing abroad?
     
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    Do you denie saudi arabias killings and killing abroads?

    Germany has a very long history with Iran.

    You know Iran always supported Germany. And even after WW II, it was first country of the world, that reached its hand to us.
     
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    That's because the Nazis were exterminating the Jews. Birds of a feather.
     
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    Iran has the largest jewish population in the middle east beside Israel. They even have a seat in parliament.

    Iranian jews are extremly loyal to their nation and even denied emigration offers into Israel.
     
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    You are the one in denial - of US terrorism and killing abroad - on a level which makes Iran look like a lightweight in the terrorism department.

    Soleimani was fighting against ISIS - our Radical Islamist Jihadist proxy army in Syria.
     
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    I guess your answer is no, you don’t deny it.
     
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    And killed over 600 Americans.
     
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    Iran doesnt need to be your enemy. Its an amazing nation.

    You know Germany and France were mortal enemies for hundreds of years. And in the end both realized that all this wars we fight with each other lead to nothing but ruin on both sides.

    I assume the german-french peace as most important of all.

    Because it shows that even the worst enemies can become friends. And i mean true friends on eye sight.
     
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    Which has what to do with crowdstrike??
     
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    It was Bush and Cheney who killed those Americans - as they never should have been there - so Soleimani had right on his side.

    Should US diplomats who killed hundreds of thousands of Iraqi's be targeted in the same way ? Your hypocrisy is over the top -as is your double standard - in some mind bending and ridiculous attempt to defend Trump.
     
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    I'm not sure if this is just a case of hypocrisy or if maybe commentators just think the 'deep state' doesn't include the entire intelligence community:

     
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    What's the American body count of Trump's wars so far?
     
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    Have no idea of the exact number, but I'm sure it's in the tens of thousands by now..
     

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