Educated vs "Non-Educated"

Comey said a lot of things.

And, let's remember that Sec State Condi Rice and other top officials have had classified information on their personal computers by their own admission. Good or not, it has been standard practice.

Trump is not being impeached for having classified information on his personal devices.

Let's remember that he uses a fully open phone for presidential business even when he is in foreign counries. That is a startlingly security breach. Trump is not getting any legal pushback over that.

The acts for which he is being impeached are for what he did with Ukraine and his stonewalling of Congress, blocking investigations that involved him as a principle.

He is obviously ABSOLUTELY guilty of both articles.

 

How ‘bout some “science”?
https://www.nber.org/papers/w19844.pdf

And some breakdown of it.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.theatlantic.com/amp/article/511925/

 

No, he did way more than "lie one time". He lied directly to the FBI under the claim that he was helping but with the objective of causing the investigation to fail.

Also, he used his official position for the benefit of Turkey for which he received half a million bucks - and while he was not registered as a foreign agent.

Detecting this kind of problem is EXACTLY why require foreign agents such as Flynn to register. We can't have them selling their influece on Ameria's policies for the benefit of foreign countries.

 

This is the thing that the anti-college crowd seems to miss. A college education does not necessarily make one more intelligent, but it does act as an indicator of those who are, those who can stick to it and get the job done. It is one thing to say I’m smart and another to say I have proof that I am smart.

 

So why don’t you go out and buy one? Show everyone how smart you are. Heck, you could just go to a trophy store and have a diploma made up and put on a plague. You could even have them build up the biggest trophy ever, with World’s Smartest etched into the plate on the base. Who needs a college degree when everyone can just declare themselves smart.

 

I think she is from one of the ex-Soviet -stans.

 

Science degrees are liberal arts degrees. I went to a “liberal arts and science” college, majoring in physics.

STEM is an odd term as technology is the result of science and engineering. And math is kind of the language that scientists and engineers use. To even further complicate things, Tech, as used in the business sense mostly refers to software companies. In the computer world there are only around 60,000 hardware engineers, those designing the underlying hardware. However there are at least around four and a half million programmers/coders

 

Yes

 

I never needed an expensive college degree. Knowledge is free.

 

Yup...
One thing missed by the right is, intelligence is as much about motivation as any other single factor within the limitations of a person’s innate abilities. The extremes of motivation is what often determines if a person succeeds or not in any particular area. That’s why, getting a degree from a reputable institute of higher learning is an important factor in many job requirements. Corporations and institutions are looking for motivated people.

If you’re poor, your motivation maybe to get fed for the day. That’s a huge detractor from using your innate abilities to seak employment. The continual disregard for the plight of the working poor is an inexcusable characteristic of the right.
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Funny, it maybe free. Now back it up with fact filled conclusions. We don’t see much of it. There is just your say so otherwise. You’re going to have to prove it. Denying degrees are important for success in many areas , is not showing much intellect.

 

Exactly. STEM is just an acronym for topic areas, it’s not a degree. Obviously you need a high level of verbal skills to be successful in any area that includes STEM. The right, being their black and white motivated as they are, doesn’t see the value in requiring English, psych or sociology courses in any degree involving STEM. Yet, they often are. Employers love to see variety in one’s education. It’s another sign of diversity.

They don’t seem to get that “science” in general is involved in the acquisition of all knowledge. Some don’t even know what the S stands for in BS, MS of most degrees. Heck, the highest degree you can get Law is a “doctorate of judicial science “

So regardless of anyone having a degree, if they don’t use the scientific method in their aqusiton of knowledge, they’ll be wrong more often then not. This is what matriculation towards any degree teaches you. If you get that on your own, fine.....but you’ll have to prove it instead of being a Fox News devotee without diversity.

 

If you are unqualified to get a job after 12 years of education, it tells there is something very wrong with the education.

Public schooling is a true disaster that has inflated the value of high school diplomas and made it increasingly impossible to learn anything at all in school.Now, it is doing the same to college.

I honestly cannot point to anything I learned in school. Only thing I ever had interest in, I had to deprioritise to "learn" (memorise) something I had no interest in.

Public education creates mediocrity,

 

That's your prejudice, not mine. All honest work is noble.
The poorly educated is just a blanket term that includes the scholastically challenged, but it's much more.
It includes a person's moral, intellectual and spiritual intelligence, or the lack of them.
The problem with the poorly educated is how easily they fall for lying demagogues who prey on their ignorance and fear. They have been screwing up the world for millennia.

 

Ha ha
That’s laughable. Flynn lies perpetually, he was lucky to only get charged once....that’s the way it works.
Both Hillary and Flynn were put under oath, Hillary more then any politician before probably. It’s Flynn and his perpetual lying that got him in the most trouble. Trump.....he couldn’t survive one statement under oath. That pretty much is the entire case of most of the right when it comes to supporting Trump.

Flynn, he failed the test time after time, once he left the military....he didn’t want loose his benefits.
You have Marine in your avatar. And you didn’t make the connection ? .

 

Most of the "educated" people I have met have been idiots. They are only considered "intelligent" because they have a certificate to prove it.

 

Without public schooling, most couldn’t even operate a computer and type coherently. So let’s get real.

 

I am not sure if you are being sarcastic here.

I belong to the generation that had a computer at home since I was five, I learned to use a computer at home. The new generation are basically born with iPhones in their hands.

And speaking of "typing cohenerently", it is rather ironic that with the spread and normalisation of public education, reading-and-writing-comprehension is in free fall. Nowadays, we even have journalists who cannot write properly

 

Sure.in reality, they maybe speaking a different language then you. Like, the one that was used to developed the keyboard the right uses to make insane claims on the internet....(they also developed). You wouldn’t be living the dream without people with degrees. They save your life every day.

 

Bill Gates has no degree.

 

Sure, I see it all the time. Like they fk up the proper use of “less” and “fewer” all the time. That doesn’t make them uneducated.

And yes, you got your little computers, even back then from people with degrees. How’d you miss that without a degree ?
Could not have happened without them.

Yet, we can find a gazillion non degreed people to work in sweat shops assembling computers....so who’s more valuable ? That’s obvious. No sarcasm intended.

 

Yes but - near everyone he hires has one

 

Yep.

 

Yes he does....an honorary one from Harvard. That shows you how valuable they are.

 

Then you must believe that it is only that piece of paper which is important rather than the years of work required to earn one.