Educated vs "Non-Educated"

Democratic ideas are so authoritarian. They try so hard to hold the common man down by making sure he has access to healthcare, proper nutrition, and education, that all people have rights and freedoms. It is just so horrible how they allowed homosexuals to marry each other. And all of those harsh blue states that are allowing people to make their own decisions as to marijuana and abortion.

You never see the Authoritarian Democrats advocating for stricter laws and punishments. Never see them advocating for more police and prisons. And all the horror, they even complain about police brutality. And you can't get more authoritarian than opposing brutal police tactics.

 

Ownership of 'the means of production' has nothing to do with the economic model. It's either for profit (capitalism), or it isn't (socialism).

Who owns the FOR PROFIT corporations/means of production is entirely irrelevant, obviously. They're still capitalist outfits.

 

I bet that you can't prove that. By your logic, countries like Somalia should be the economic power houses of the world, and Scandinavia should be poverty central.

 

1) Once again, America's odd choice to make medicine and law post-grad is not the standard. In many countries (including mine), they are a full 5 - 7 years of law or medicine ONLY. The medical student starts doing medicine right out of high school.

2) I never said there weren't useless STEM degrees. I said that vocational education is crucial, and vocational education includes trades, apprenticeships, and trainee-ships. It is also far more likely to gained in a STEM field. What it doesn't include, is Arts/Humanities degrees.

 

That's unusual unless your small town is in the sticks.

I ran an independent garage, albeit years ago now when cars were much less complicated. The guys I trust the least are specialty shops--oil changes, brakes, transmissions, body shops, tires.

 

Democracy gave us Brexit.

And who were the people desperately trying stop it by circumventing democratic process? Progressives.

 

Next war? Go fight it yourself since you would have taken away the right to vote of a number of young guys you'd be drafting.

 

I have no clue what most of this is supposed to mean. And we don't start medicine at age 5, we start at age 18. Seven years of pure medicine.

Meantime, I'm sorry your only knowledge of the pragmatic is limited to weird old European tropes. There's a massive world beyond those 'villages', and much of it understands survival only too well. When it comes visiting your children - as it surely will within this century - you might finally see (assuming you're alive) the vanity of thinking you can recite poetry as the world burns.

 

I fail to see what is unusual about having four good mechanics in a town of about a thousand?

 

Sweden had a huge head start on Somalia. Swedish culture/values are far superior to those in Somalia.

A better comparison would be South Korea vs. North Korea, or West Germany vs. East Germany, or even Hong Kong and Taiwan vs. PRC. Or maybe Brazil vs. Venezuela.

 

A joke, surely.

 

I was thinking of something a little less dramatic like not learning a second language when you're a child, or learning to play a musical instrument.

 

No, no, and no. Communism is simply common-purse collective. It has nothing to do with state politics.

No 'modern country' is socialist. Plenty are capitalist democracies, however.

 

I served in the military and my oldest son is now serving. Where did I say military shouldn't vote?

 

Young people know the internet too well to be fooled. The GOP is the only party in the modern world with its stances on global warming tax policy abortion taxing the rich the same as everyone else in all taxes, free stuff horrors, guns for everyone, imaginary immigration crisis LOL. etc all based on alternate fact propaganda.

 

If you go to hire a lawyer in the US, you will find that they usually have a 4 year degree other than just their legal credentials. You can select a lawyer who knows more than just the law.

That can be a real benefit.

 

Well, then, you're a lot better than many of the folks who took my night school computer classes to get up to speed on basic skills for retraining they needed.

 

Norway is more of a socialist country than any other.

 

Another illusion. The number of government employees other then military, has not grown for decades. The government. Is not getting bigger, but smaller as a share of the populous. When the populous increase, the responsibility increases.....that’s it.
Yet, republicans have never cut expenditures.....NEVER. What they don’t do, is pay for their illusions of economic grandeur. Only liberal budgets in modern histOry have shown any decrease in deficit or any attempt to balance a budget. The 9 of 10 recessions committed to under their watch is proof of their incompetence.

 

MLK Jr.s "I had a dream" didn't come from STEM.
Kennedy's "Ask not what the country can do for you" and "we choose to go to the moon not because" didn't come from STEM.
Churchill's "blood sweat and tears" didn't come from STEM.
The Gettysburg address didn't come from STEM.

That was poetry applied when we needed it.

Leadership doesn't come from STEM. Morality and ethics don't come from STEM.

When we face problems, we need poetry, history, social sciencs, civics, and philosophy. And, that's true even in STEM fields - let alone real life.

One could argue the reason for current discord at current levels is that we don't have enough of those subjects. Today, we don't have leadership.

Suggesting we should stop teaching these subjects is LUNACY. We should be spending more time ensuring our future generations know those subjects.

 

Reagan had two recessions and ran up historical deficits setting the stage for Bush Sr. To have another of his own. Even Bush called it voodoo economics. Real history also reveals a historic level of corruption. The longer we get from Reagan, the more incompetent we realize he was.

 

This is quite dramatic in music. A child who is taught music at an early age will more likely develop perfect pitch, whereas one who is never given musical instruction as a child, will never achieve perfect pitch. It doesn't have to be formal instruction, as just singing along can do the trick. They always say that having perfect pitch is like pitches being distinct like colors on a color wheel. I think it is more subtle than that, more like hearing the differences in vowel sounds. The very thing that is involved in being able to speak a language well, or not.

 

All true...but the proper use of stem reveals truth in science....that is a necessary prerequisite for goid decisions.
“we need poetry, history, social sciencs, civics, and philosophy. ”
Separates us from the Putin’s and third world dictators. They help make us human.

 

You figured it out, but many young people don't until it's too late. Family, bills, etc. can be too steep a climb to securing the training they need. Better to do some thinking before you settle down.

Our daughter got free tuition, free transportation (a car), free board and room, and about $750/month in today's money for spending while she attended university from the bank of mom and dad. She is a commercial banker in charge of a region for a major bank making loans for $25m and up. Her husband does startups in the new field of instant credit tied to data from the credit reporting agencies. She parlayed her university business training into a lucrative career.

 

It's amazing to go to countries like the Netherlands and Denmark where just about everyone speaks fluent English. We can do so much better in our schools if we just get on with it.