Educated vs "Non-Educated"

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  1. LangleyMan

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    Regulation isn't ownership. Hospitals are mostly private.
    OTOH, if we trained more doctors, the resulting adjustment in the market for doctors might limit them to fewer than three houses.
     
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    Work in a government-run school for a few years, then you'll know the difference.
     
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    Only 1/3 of Americans are proficient in mathematics up to algebra ? Gee, that seems to come close to the fraction of avid Trump supporters.
     
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    While this is entirely accurate, social security and Medicare part A are totally self sufficient, and by law, will remain so. Payroll taxes pay for them. They are capped so only the primary users are funding it. The surplus for each fund goes into the general fund and becomes a significant part of our deficit. So essentially, these social programs are so efficient, they are robbed and help pay for “ guns” and not just “ butter”.
    If Medicaid, and the other parts of Medicare were put all, under Medicare, there would be NO DEFICIT CAUSED BY THESE SOCIAL PROGRAMS.
     
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    I see the question isn’t answered....
    . If I said I worked ( I make no claim) in both would it be accurate to say, (and gave subjected answers like, ) public schools ( high school and below) are better supplied, better funded, have higher salaries and as a consequence, better instruction. The private schools are often co funded by townships without schools and wealthier parents. Because wealth of student family correlates with gpa, private schools have the potential to score better , even with lower quality teaching. I think I’d be pretty accurate. I do claim to have kids participate in each, private and public.
     
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    I don’t understand a mindset where we are supposed to hate symbiosis but love parasitism.
     
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    We have been paying to increase the service sector by outsourcing manufacturing costs. Why do Americans deserve more pay than Chinese or Mexican workers? Are we special?
     
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    So, you’ve never had to make payroll.
     
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    That is tough. Why didn’t they start her over in college algebra and pre-calculus?

    But nobody smokes dope or ends up with a hangover just because they want to have fun?

    I’m looking for someone to answer this question. If religious observance and academic achievement are only correlated, why are they correlated? If it’s parental involvement not student performance in a vacuum, why are religious parents better parents?

    The common teachings on heaven and hell make no sense. We agree. And God doesn’t help anyone cheat death. Math won’t make sense if kids are taught 2+2=4 but 4+4=6.
    If we go that route, there’s no reason to bring nutrition, sleep deprivation or fetal alcohol syndrome into discussions about education either. :)
     
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    Well, at least more productive. Why does Paul McCartney deserve to be richer than Christiaan Barnard? Because more individuals bought McCartney records than asked Dr. Barnard for a heart transplant. That's the free market. Same applies to the American workers and the rest of the world--broadly speaking because there are no free markets left in the world, only mixed or socialist.
     
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    For small numbers when labor was available. Now I use tech as a replacement for labor. It’s difficult to make payroll when we as Americans think we “deserve” higher wages than those in other geographic locations.
     
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    Thank you! You get it. Nobody deserves higher wages if they aren’t producing more.
     
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    Do you have any proof that 80% of jobs lost was to robotics and not fair trade?
     
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    Newscentermaine.com | Why Apple is bringing billions back home
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    Was it going to happen anyway?

    But it took the cut in taxes and regulations to swing it for many of those factories. Especially Apple. Asked in 2016 if he would bring his billions in off shore billions home, he said no.( .Apple CEO Says Company Won't Bring Home Money Parked ...

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    But a year later, after Trump's tax cuts

    Newscentermaine.com | Why Apple is bringing billions back home
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    I agree this is a problem. However, solutions to this kiind of problem are noet easy. We've been working on it since before Nixon.

    The strength we have in approaching this problem is pretty much centered on having trade partners. China then faces pressure of not just the US, but an organization of international trading partners.

    Trump has been startling in his degree of removing ourselves from such organization when it comes to China.

    As we see, his unilateral approach is no more effective than expected.
     
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    They're not, always (plenty of non-religious NE Asians, for example). But both are features of a 'conservative' and rigorous approach to life. Religion itself is not any kind of cause - it's a symptom.
     
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    Are a luxury of capitalism. NOTHING to do with socialism. home schooling is far more socialist.
     
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    Even when it's not earned, presumably.

    The very definition of inequity. Some work, while others take their ease.
     
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    Symptom of what?
     
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    On the contrary, I have plenty. That's why I can say these things with absolute confidence .. because they're true. Poor migrants, from horrible circumstances, can and do educate their kids out of poverty. As soon as they have access to the enormous opportunities of the West, they make use of them. We're talking about people who've sometimes experienced set backs and trauma that your 'screwed up' Americans wouldn't even see in their worst nightmares.

    None of these people would ever use the excuse of 'I'm screwed up', or 'I'm clueless'. Have you worked with such people? Some of them actually are screwed up, and/or clueless. But it doesn't matter, because they make their lives about their children. Their own **** is put to one side for the duration. They are tireless, self-disciplined, and very very determined. They won't indulge bad habits, or do anything which could compromises their role of education support. They are willing to sacrifice 20 years of their own interests, leisure, fun, indulgences etc, to secure for their kids the things they didn't have.

    You need to make peace with the fact that this is about choices. If people from the worst possible circumstances can make it happen, then anyone can. CHOICES.
     
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    A 'conservative' and rigourous approach to life.
     
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    You talking about the effects of the cause, not the cause. The CAUSE is consumerism. Prior to the middle of last century, it wasn't a thing.
     
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    God, no ... it so isn't. How on earth do you think public schools are funded? Not by bartering eggs.
     

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