As a non-partisan, I saw the SOTU address as a declaration of war...

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  1. modernpaladin

    modernpaladin Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Those are tools useful in the furtherance of globalization. And no, I don't think globalization is preventable, nor is there any good reason to try.

    But globalization =\= globalism. Nations can strive ever more toward efficiency, peace and beneficial trade and cooperation with eachother while yet maintaining their sovereignty and political and cultural distinctions. This is globalization, and I believe its necessary for the continued advancement of humanity.

    Globalism is the attempt to artificially expedite the batural process of globalization by forcefully eliminating political and cultural distinctions and unify all peoples into one. It merges as-yet incompatible political and cultural groups and leads to social toxicity and destabilization. It most certainly can and should be resisted.
     
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    I keep one of them as a representative.. I can figure what the blocked said.. it's rote among them, and I can also follow, by the replies to them, what inanity they've pecked out.


    While I admire our friend's approach; I do think the most aggravating thing you can do to them is ignore them, whether you can see their post or not.. I do regardless, when I might have to repeat myself.. and I do not like to repeat myself in a single presentation
    I do wonder if the blocked know they've been blocked, and I wonder if they quote what I have post but I don't see it.
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    Because he'll never get a balanced budget out of a US congress. He can veto it if he chooses in which case it would be passed over his veto, or he can sit on it for thirty days after which it becomes law whether he signs it or not.
     
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    One can have global trade and global communication without global government. The last thing the world needs us more bureaucrats second guessing everyone.
     
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    I disagree with globalization =/= globalism.
    If we have enemies and not partners, we will not do good trade.

    Cultural distinctions will always be there. But change is one of the only constants in this world.
    In the USA, we have hundreds of different cultures that were brought here. There are still Italian festivities, German festivities, Native American festivities, and hundreds more.
    People are not going to lose their heritage. But with a mixing of cultures, will some change? Absolutely. And that is not a bad thing. In fact is could be considered a good thing to see other culture and what is good and bad about them. And capture the good.
    Globalism is a stepping stone to globalization.
    Not an end to groups, but an addition to groups.
     
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    Aleksander Ulyanov Well-Known Member

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    I don't think authoritarianism is a concern of Trump and the Trumpers as much as a goal.
     
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    Then he would not be responsible. If he truly is conservative, then lead by example and let a veto be overridden. Or as you say, let it sit.
    Talk is cheap, as they say.
     
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    If one is to trade fairly and equally. There needs to be a governing force that oversees trade.
    The world will continue to global trade and communication. Standards are a way to make sure things move along as best as possible.

    In the electronics world there are many standards that pop up with new technology, so that it can be launched across as many platforms as possible and access to as many users as possible.
    There has to be standards and guidelines to operate without chaos.
     
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    TedintheShed Banned

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    It started long before that.

    The only color this is about is the color green and if anyone thinks otherwise than they are nothing more than a useful idiot.
     
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    TedintheShed Banned

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    Fair?

    I hate that word.
     
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    So when Obama gave it to a man who watched a woman drown in a sinking car to cover his own ass, what say you?
     
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    OK, escalated then.
    And we elected one of the loud voices of that escalation to the office of prez. Who is not impeached.
     
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    Globalism is an unecessary, disruptive and ultimately authoritarian 'stepping stone.' Change is, of course, the only constant. The problem is when its pushed to happen inorganically. Which is what globalism is. Globalization will occur without globalism. Just more slowly and stabily.

    Globalism pushes cultures and political ideologies together before they're ready to cooperate. It seems most likely to me that this is being done because the likely result of organic globalization is not what the globalists want the world to be. Given the authoritarian nature of those pushing the hardest for it, what they want is more centralized command and control. I want a world where people work together voluntarily. They want a world where everyone works for them.
     
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    I think it was Trump reading off all the good economic news Trump was citing "since I was elected," that drove the Democrats nutz.
     
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    When you have nothing good to say, play the race card. Because nothing says "I love what the Democratic Party stands for" better than inciting racial hatred. Good on you, represent.
     
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    Well, that question usually goes like this, were you ever accused of a committing crime, or indicted for a crime, or convicted of a crime and the answer for Trump is 'no' to all the above.
     
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    Trump might not be ideal acting as the tip of the spear, then again he just might be.

    For Americans who care about liberty, sovereignty, the Constitution, limited government, and good economics - we've been waiting for someone to push back for decades.

    Our nation's march to the left has been constant since the 1930's, and we're getting near the predictable end of the process.

    Me personally? I'm hoping Trump can buy us a few more decent years before the curtain falls.

    You leftists have all-but destroyed our nation - pushback was long overdue.
     
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    Yeah, shooting ducks in a barrel is fun, for a while, but many of these people's arguments are sooooo stupid, vacuous and soooo easy to shoot down, that it does get "tedious," as Thought Criminal says.

    I don't think i have anyone on ignore, but I know who the witless trolls are, and don't even read what they have to say. But, when it's a slow day, I'll go duck hunting in a barrel, once in a while.
     
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    I know a couple of dems at work who are fit to be tied. I'll paraphrase: "Pelosi and Schiff did not follow thru on any subpoenas, not even one. They talked the talk, and then just tucked tail, and impeached Trump for article two, cuz they were too damn lazy."
     
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    What i am hoping for, is that more of these lunatic Democratic-Socialists will keep mouthing off about trillion dollar free-stuff,. Dems, just be honest with what they want to do to the nation. I'm hoping for more mobs of hate-filled Bernie supporters to run thru the streets, beating Trump supporters. More hateful rhetoric and insanity from ***** hat wearing dems. Just more riots, hate, vitriol, of what we witnessed the past four years.

    I can do without the baseball practice snipers, but the rest of the evil, and violence, we need to see it, to show the young people what it is ouri nation is up against.
     
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    If they could have proved that Trump withheld aid to influence voters this November they would have proved he was seeking personal gain and i would have been on the pro impeach side.
     
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    Of course you do.
     
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    The first three steps in authoritarianism.

    1. Disarm the citizens. Who are the ones talking gun control?

    2. Control the information. Who is in control of the information Americans get?

    3. Control what people can say. Who are the ones doing that? Think gays are sinning you're a homophobe that can be ridiculed.
    Whose in favor of government regulations on hate speech?


    If anyone is pushing us towards authoritarianism it is unquestionably the left.
     
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    Yep because increasingly nobody but leftist tools are believing that in any way pertaining to this roaring economy 'Obama Built That!"
     
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    Fortunately the left only has limited control of information and news, and they have become stumbling idiots every time they go on the air.

    The MahaRushi built the push back model that made sure of that.
     
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