You need to listen to Fox News to actually get it!

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  1. Mike12

    Mike12 Well-Known Member

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    not sure about lies but bias, for sure. I like hannity, he is cool and admits he is an opinion show host. The others act as if they are impartial journalists when all they do is cover trump in the most negative way possible. They compare him to hitler, accuse him of being a russian asset/agent and people here have the audacity to call fox news out as ‘fake’ but not do the same to the liberal hacks on msnbc, cnn. Zero credibility for all these people.
     
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    I've asked this many times. Name one thing that was rigged in the impeachment. Just one.
     
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    Trump was completely exonerated. No collusion, no conspiracy, no obstruction of justice. The Orange Man Bad meme however will not go away perpetuated by the Orange Man Bad spin doctors on the left.
     
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    Guilt by opinion, conjecture and hearsay pretty much fits the bill. Although I honestly see your confusion as the DRC uses these type(s) of conviction all the time, but try and keep in mind this is the U.S. we do things a lot more honestly and fairly..
     
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    The President was not allowed to call witnesses. The claim was made that there was not enough time because Trump was an immediate threat to the US Republic. Then Pelosi sat on the articles for one month before referring them to the Senate.
     
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    So........I take it that means you really do refuse to admit to the demonstrable fact Trump is a pathological liar. One could say you're a member of the Orange Man Good club. I'm curious, how do you manage to be in denial of this fact about his lying? Tell ya what, click this link.................https://projects.thestar.com/donald-trump-fact-check/................and then explain to me why you do that silly Orange Man Bad thing when the evidence of his lying is right in front of you.
     
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    Orange Man Bad ^^^^
     
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    Do the CNN and MSNBC shows you referenced claim to be news or opinion shows?
     
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    House Judiciary Panel Asks Trump if He Will Present Impeachment Defense
    Representative Jerrold Nadler, the chairman of the Judiciary Committee, gave the president until next Friday to say if he will present evidence or call witnesses.
    https://www.nytimes.com/2019/11/29/...p-if-he-will-present-impeachment-defense.html

    WASHINGTON — The chairman of the House Judiciary Committee asked President Trump on Friday whether he intends to mount a defense during the committee’s consideration of impeachment articles, setting a deadline of next Friday for Mr. Trump and his lawyers to decide if they will present evidence or call witnesses.

    In a letter to the president, Representative Jerrold Nadler, Democrat of New York and the committee chairman, said Mr. Trump has the right to review the evidence against him, ask questions of his accusers during public hearings that begin next week and present evidence and request witness testimony.
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    You'll have to pardon me for intruding on your right wing media and Trump inspired fantasy by reminding you of the facts.
     
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    That’s complete BS. Trump was never given the opportunity in the House. The Banana Republic Party however continues to claim that Trump must prove innocence. Disgusting.
     
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    That was way to late....Shifty didn't get him the chance....all Jerry did was call a handful of lawyers
     
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    I assure you this isn't opinion.

    House Judiciary Panel Asks Trump if He Will Present Impeachment Defense
    Representative Jerrold Nadler, the chairman of the Judiciary Committee, gave the president until next Friday to say if he will present evidence or call witnesses.
    https://www.nytimes.com/2019/11/29/...p-if-he-will-present-impeachment-defense.html

    WASHINGTON — The chairman of the House Judiciary Committee asked President Trump on Friday whether he intends to mount a defense during the committee’s consideration of impeachment articles, setting a deadline of next Friday for Mr. Trump and his lawyers to decide if they will present evidence or call witnesses.

    In a letter to the president, Representative Jerrold Nadler, Democrat of New York and the committee chairman, said Mr. Trump has the right to review the evidence against him, ask questions of his accusers during public hearings that begin next week and present evidence and request witness testimony.
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    Which leads me to ask, do you remember which lying right wing media source caused you to believe the falsehood you posted about Trump and witnesses? Or was it Trump, the inveterate liar, himself?
     
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    1: Republican's not able to call their own witnesses without first being approved by the Democrat leaders.

    2: Republican's not being able to ask questions unless they were approved of by the Democrat leaders.

    3: President or his counsel not able to call his/their own witnesses or give evidence unless he submitted to them in writing first, and he had to be precise. If the Dems decided that it "wasn't relevant" or "desirable" then they would not allow it.

    4: President or his counsel not even able to attend unless he released all the information that the Democrats were wanting.

    That's four.

    LINK: Impeachment Inquiry Procedures in the Committee on the Judiciary Pursuant to H. Res. 660
    LINK: Text: H.Res.660 — 116th Congress (2019-2020)

    And yes, those link go to different parts of H.Res. 660. So look through them both, don't assume they're the same.
     
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    Well, all I can say is your refusal to accept objective fact is why Trumpette's get a reputation for.......well.......denying objective fact.
     
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    That’s complete BS. As explained above.
     
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    See my and other edited posts above.
     
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    Had no idea H.Res 660 was "right wing media".
     
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    Orange Man Good isn't an explanation.
     
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    news, as you know.
     
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    After just having exposed one of the more egregious lies spewed by right wing media about the House hearings you're skating on thin ice by implying CNN and MSNBC are not credible sources without trying to prove it.
     
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    But that’s not how they operate.
     
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    There it is. Progressives projecting.
     
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    Trump was in fact invited to participate in the impeachment hearings or to send designated representatives. He declined.
    He was invited prior to the hearings on impeachment. How do you get never given the opportunity from that?
    Try another one.
     
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    Still waiting for your explanation. BTW, I'd just like to say I realize you must be struggling with the cognitive dissonance created when your beliefs and reality collide. Hang in there.
     
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