Medicare for all???

So Trumpers on Medicare don't want everyone to have Medicare.

Interesting

That said...Medicare for all is a red herring. It would never pass Congress.

What we need is a Medicare buy in and a fix for Obamacare (to repair the damage Republicans have done to it)

That's what Biden favors and he has the ability to get that through Congress.

Mayor Pete also favors that option

 

Why stop at Medicare for All? We could have VA Care for All and government would have even more opportunities to reduce healthcare spending.

 

From Medicare's perspective, MAPD plans are generally more cost effective for them than original Medicare, which is why there is no underwriting required for them, but for supplements there are once you're past your initial enrollment period.

 

As of this year, no supplement plan will cover your Part B deductible, unless you are already grandfathered on a Plan F.

 

While I agree that for this election the whole Medicare for All debate is secondary to defeating Trump, eventually we will need to move in this direction if we are serious about getting a handle on coverage and costs. This topic is already way too complex for the majority of Americans, but many have finally come to realize the importance of the ACA provisions as it affects them personally. The public still needs to be further educated that it's the payment system that is at fault.

 

Lucky for Canada you have the good U S of A as your neighbor, so you can bop down here when you need an MRI or don't want to wait 8 months for an operation. There is no mystery as to why many of our cities on our northern border have gigantic medical complexes. It is called cash paying customers from Canada.

If we go to universal health care Canadians will suffer perhaps more than we will.

Which is exactly what those countries that Bernie tries to use as examples of a great system. The rich in Great Britain, France, Denmark, Sweden and Canada move to the front of the line with doctors that do not participate in the government system. That is how the real world works. Bernie would create the exact same system here. Does anyone think that the hollywood elite or the democrat congressmen will wait in line with the rest of us unwashed in a doctors office?

 

You already wait now for non-emergency procedures under the current system anyway.

 

Advantage plans...in other words you have evil private insurance.

Bernie and Liz plan to kill those plans you know...

 

But you would no longer have networks to worry about, so you could see your doctor.

 

I'm in the Medicare for those that want it camp.

 

Everyone on Advantage plans already has that choice by just reverting to regular Medicare. For some reason they don't do that. Bernie and Liz will need to make that argument to 22 million Medicare Advantage users.

 

Thats the part of the plan he tells the American people when hes trying to get elected.

The rest of the plan.....
U.K. Health Service to Deny Treatment to Patients Deemed Racist or Sexist

If you dont believe in 54 genders, no treatment.....
and since theres no private healthcare....

Vote Sanders, and become a chinese citizen !!!

 

And that's why supplement plans cost more. I would say that about 1/2 the people I talk to on Medicare, that's their main concern, can they still keep seeing their current doctor. So yes, I agree, if Bernie and Elizabeth promoted this particular benefit, many would be sold on the idea.

 

Wow, that would suck for you.

 

Vetrans who served in a theater of operations are moved off of VA 5 years after their last discharge (as some return after discharge).

So, VA is a temporary solution.

 

Medicare is not taxes it is an entirely separate deduction on pay checks, just as Social Security is.

 

Yup, I dont believe in 54 genders, and thats enough to get booted off twitter, facebook, Youtube etc. and now Healthcare

 

Supplement plans are separate products from Advantage plans.

 

I know that, but unless you're a dual eligible (meaning you qualify for both Medicare and your State's Medicaid), then you are completely responsible for the 20% that Medicare does not pay, and there's no cap on that. Original Medicare can become quite expensive without a supplement plan in place. Advantage plans are the backstop for when you can no longer afford it.

 

They're only withdrawing non-critical care for those abusive patients.

 

We need to reduce the cost of healthcare.

In general, what that means is that some business entity isn't going to get paid as much. Given the massive duplication of effort that comes with private insurance, my bet is that those companies will have to feel a pinch.

My primary healthcare is Medicare. I have gotten zero pushback on what doctors I see.

I would suggest that our own system has plenty of opportunity for those with wealth to jump the line. I doubt that will end.

 

today.... but what about tomorrow...

Hell they dont even have a first amendment....

This is why the founding fathers included the second amendment....

 

To my knowledge, I know of no healthcare system that would prevent you from paying for private health services if that is what you really want to do. The problem usually lies when those people then expect the government to pay for their non-emergency services because they can no longer afford it.

 

I have Medicare Parts A, B, and D with a Medicare supplement plan. Insurance through a private carrier is essentially equal to company subsidized health insurance with only minor differences as contracted between the company and private insurance for group rates. One noticeable difference is group plans seldom refuse pre-existing conditions.

I'll offer a couple of personal anecdotal examples. Avoiding getting too detailed, I had a distal pancreatectomy which requires removal of the spleen. It is a medical necessity and generally accepted medical practice to receive a regimen of vaccinations after a spleen is removed. Medicare does not pay for that regimen since, as a general rule, they do not pay for vaccinations... period. Doctors routinely order an MRI every 5 years for smokers which regular insurance routinely covers. If the smoker is over 75 Medicare will not cover the MRI. Medicare will not cover the new shingles vaccine though most private plans do. The list goes on and on.

If we ever get Medicare for all with Bernie's plan to save money by shaving reimbursement, doctors and hospitals are going to leave their practice in droves. That is a major concern of mine. As I think it was Burns who said all we will get for the promised joy is grief and pain, although the government will be pleased because they will now have control over everyone's health, which after all is the primary goal of these nationalized plans.