The Billion-Dollar Disinformation Campaign to Reelect the President

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  1. LafayetteBis

    LafayetteBis Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Blah, blah, blah. More "conspiracy theory"!

    News is reported factually, whether you like it or not. What transpires as "personal opinion" is different. And you are confusing the two.

    Consider this review from The Atlantic: The Billion-Dollar Disinformation Campaign to Reelect the President - excerpt:
    Anyone who believes the paid-for election campaign BS that passes through Facebook (and its like) deserves to be duped ... !

     
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    Does this mean you support trump making America great again and enforcing the constitution?
     
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    LafayetteBis Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    No, not in the least. That Trump employed Facebook to maximize his campaign punch is well known. He paid millions for it, and the mischief worked.

    He's a manipulator and has been all his life. From here: Veracity of statements by Donald Trump - excerpt:
    From the same source cited above:
    The guy's a wacko, and if the American people want a wacko as PotUS, they deserve the consequences of that collective stoopidity ...
     
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    Maybe congress should make it illegal for conservatives to use the internet. Aside from that, do you have any other suggestions on how to stop Trump?
     
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    This must be very frustrating for you what with President Trump's impending reelection. Were you tricked by the last "disinformation campaign"? Are you afraid of it happening again? If it's any comfort, you are the only person I've talked with who even claims to having been duped. Perhaps you're the only one it will work on this time too.
     
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    LafayetteBis Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You're deluding only yourself ...
     
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    LafayetteBis Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Trump LOST the popular-vote election! Let's dump the manipulative "Winner Takes All Rule" in the Electoral College and just have the College report the popular-vote to Congress, which will declare the winner.

    That, btw, typifies an Honestly Valid Democracy, and it is NOT the variety that the US has been employing for more than two centuries ... !
     
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    Ok. Let's do a delusion check, shall we? Who is the President of the United States? Who is most likely to be elected President of the United States in November?
     
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    Trump doesn't even need a reelection campaign.

    The campaign is to retake Congress and increase our lead in the Senate.

    At this point trump is a given :twisted:
     
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    You are derailing your own thread. There are plenty of other threads about the electoral college already if your intention is to discuss the system used by the United States to elect their President.
     
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    There is no popular vote election for the president.

    You are free to campaign in your state to change how the Electors are given. My State has been doing it quite well since we joined the union
     
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    EC tangents are one step from crying racism. He's running out of talking points. Here it comes; you'll be Hitler within three posts.
     
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    He is not the President of the united people; he is the President of the United States. He is not directly elected by the people; he is elected by the States. The people choose their electors, and their State's electors elect the President of the United States.

    Our electoral college mitigates the power that those in densely populated places have exercised over those in sparsely populated places throughout human history. It is one of the things that makes the United States of America exceptional.

    Hillary Clinton won the popular vote in fifty seven counties in 2016. Trump won the popular vote in one thousand and eighty three counties.
    Americans refuse to be ruled by fifty seven castles on fifty seven hills in fifty seven cities where they poop in the street.
     
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    Still throwing a temper tantrum over 2016? Trump won using the rules in place for centuries by spending his money where it counted. Democrat states who joined you in the temper tantrum by joining the National Popular Vote attack on the Constitution will be responsible for Trump running the electoral college table after winning the popular vote. Children shouldn't be playing games designed for grownups.
     
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    The answer is to identify Facebook for what is, a media corporation.
     
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    The answer is for everybody to grow up, quit acting like a bunch of victims, and educate themselves on the platforms of candidates and the ramifications of those policies in action.
     
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    Thank you for an accurate, honest account of the reality of 45 derived from an average perspective, and otherwise too.

    I agree.

    Consider the handlers of our president have changed, and there is some reason to think it might not all be for the worse IF the people see the opportunity to acuiuly make America great again.

    Where is it written that only honorable, reasonable men do very important things benefiting many, perhaps not even bybtheir iwn design?

    I think America ought to call him on his claim of “making America great again”, because the handlers have changed and the new ones might let him or even want him to do things the previous would never consider.

    There is a specter of ugly tyranny lurking in our past that has turned out political present state, into a joke. 9/11. A major psyops called the truth movement stopped to truth and that is easily proven simply by asking them to acknowledge it. The was a deception about the structural core design and it conceal murder and treason. I have made disclosure of this to Trump,

    http://algoxy.com/law/treasonresist/disc2019/disc.trump2019.html

    If he does not investigate it to determine its veracity and then if calid begon deeper investigation arrest etc. he himself is concealing treason. That is impeachable.

    Americans cannot functionally select a new president that will serve the constitution without this.

    Our futures rely on our ability to understand it is time to apply pressure independent of the infiltrated, hijacked truth movement WHILE testing a president and compelling to deliver on his promises.
     
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    Thank you for an accurate, honest account of the reality of 45 derived from an average perspective, and otherwise too.

    I agree.

    Consider the handlers of our president have changed, and there is some reason to think it might not all be for the worse IF the people see the opportunity to acuiuly make America great again.

    Where is it written that only honorable, reasonable men do very important things benefiting many, perhaps not even bybtheir iwn design?

    I think America ought to call him on his claim of “making America great again”, because the handlers have changed and the new ones might let him or even want him to do things the previous would never consider.

    There is a specter of ugly tyranny lurking in our past that has turned out political present state, into a joke. 9/11. A major psyops called the truth movement stopped to truth and that is easily proven simply by asking them to acknowledge it. The was a deception about the structural core design and it conceal murder and treason. I have made disclosure of this to Trump,

    http://algoxy.com/law/treasonresist/disc2019/disc.trump2019.html

    If he does not investigate it to determine its veracity and then if calid begon deeper investigation arrest etc. he himself is concealing treason. That is impeachable.

    Americans cannot functionally select a new president that will serve the constitution without this.

    Our futures rely on our ability to understand it is time to apply pressure independent of the infiltrated, hijacked truth movement WHILE testing a president and compelling him to deliver on his promises.
     
  19. LafayetteBis

    LafayetteBis Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    If you cannot see through the man's Narcissism then you deserve the consequences of his presidency.

    Silly games some people play ...
     
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    When you go to voting-booth with a ballot and mark it, you have made a "popular-vote". (Buy a dictionary if necessary.)

    What happens to the popular-vote for the presidency in the US is that it goes through another process. That of the Electoral College with its impossible rule that "Winner takes all", which is contrary to any sense of either voting fairness or equitability. Because all the popular-votes not for the majority are binned, and the total vote of the EC goes to the majority-winner.

    Which is contrary to any sense of fair and equitable voting of a Head of state ...

    PS: Here is the list of other countries besides the US that employ an Electoral College to determine its Head of state: Burundi, Estonia, Kazakhstan, Madagascar, Myanmar, Pakistan, Trinidad and Tobago and Vanuatu. No modern, developed country uses it.
     
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    Contact your state representative and let them know you want your state to assign the Electors differently.

    we don’t have a national popular vote, it’s done o the state level
     
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    Yes, there IS a popular-vote for the presidency. In the last election Hillary Clinton won the Total Popular-vote Count defeating Donald Dork.

    In the US, the only developed country to do so, employs an antiquated Electoral College that allocates all its votes (often with no acceptable relation to the state's population count) to the winner. All the votes for the loser candidates are worth nothing because only the winner is allocated ALL the EC's votes. Thus those voters who did not vote for the winner have not been allowed to demonstrate their right-to-vote for their preferred candidate - thus they have no say whatsoever in electing the nation's Head of state.

    Such a perverse voting-rule is unfair-and-dishonest in any True Democracy ...
     
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    Oh! Do you mean utilize their personal responsibility like Zuckerberg and Facebook?
     
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    Nobody runs for the National popular vote.

    other nations like the UK, the people don’t even get a voice in who the PM is. He’s elected by parliament.

    Ask your state legislature to change how they allocate it . It states makes their own laws
     
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    From here: Gallup - Faith in Elections in Relatively Short Supply in U.S. - excerpt:
     
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