You need to listen to Fox News to actually get it!

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  1. AFM

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    So you have nothing. Your claim - your shame.
     
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    More hilarity from the progressive elitists.
     
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    The entire thing passed using reconciliation. And that happened after the strong negative ObamaCare signal from MA which had RomneyCare and elected a Republican to the seat held by Ted Kennedy.
     
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    that would probably be because I'm not defending Fox I don't I know why that doesn't sink into your skull.

    I'm not going to say anything about Fox news other than I don't care about Fox news.

    So if you want someone to defend Fox news go find that person too and quit begging me to do it. I'm not interested in that argument nor am I even qualified to have that argument. the only real thing I know about Fox news is it's news for out-of-touch boomers.


    okay now it's getting embarrassing for you.

    I do not care about Fox news I do not care to defend of them.

    What I'm saying is CNN is just as bad, I would put MSNBC into that ranking to. Slate and the guardian are more like the left-wing Infowars.

    The please read the ****ing words I said, instead of screeching about your obsession respond to my comments. That's how a discussion works.

    If you want to argue with some Fox news pinhead go do it. If you keep pretending like that's me I'm going to start mocking you.
    I don't know who Shep Smith is I don't engage in celebrity worship I think it's childish and for vapid imbeciles that have no life of Their own.

    If you're expecting me to know who it is because of Fox news I'm going to repeat I do not care about Fox news. It's just conservative CNN. I don't know who CNN fired because I don't care about that equally.
     
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    You have nothing. What 18% ??
     
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    Lenin and Trotsky would be very proud of you.
     
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    @AFM

    Here. Educate yourself about what happens when you increase VS cut taxes for the rich by watching this short video by former Labor Secretary, Robert Reich.

    Robert Reich: 12 Myths About Taxing the Rich

     
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    Robert Reich ??? Come'on man.
     
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    Like I said...do your own homework. All you do is repeat the same lines even after you've been given a mountain of data/evidence that you demanded...which you won't even look at. Hellofromwarsaw proved to you that there are thousands of names of voters who were purged which you didn't believe existed. And yet you still didn't acknowledge it. This is your MO. Do you work for Fox? lol

    Again, I'm not doing your homework. If you think no one's lobbying against minimum wage hikes, then prove me wrong.
     
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    And what you're not understanding is that I'm not defending CNN, MSNBC or other MSM news sources. I was responding to struth's support for Fox when he posted the opinion poll on most "trusted" news sources.

    This is what you said:

    "CNN was caught red-handed they were sued for millions over slander. We'll look at it in relative terms. Slate the guardian and CNN extremely far left and not reliable however your graph shows otherwise. So your graph cannot be trusted."

    Like I said before, you've made claims about the graph's trustworthiness with no basis for your claim. You've provided only an opinion based on other personal opinions regarding how far left/right CNN & others lean politically. You also said...

    "CNN is just as bad, I would put MSNBC into that ranking to. Slate and the guardian are more like the left-wing Infowars.

    This is more opinion. Have you done a full run-down of the years of news reporting of each news outlet to come up with this assessment?

    An important point you need to understand is that it doesn't matter if the news source is far left or far right or somewhere in between. What matters is whether the news is truthful/factual...whatever the news happens to be. Bias CAN become an issue if (1) the source posts mostly news that favor its left/right leanings while disregarding the rest, even if what it posts is still factual...and (2) if the source presents the news in a propagandist fashion.

    A good example of bias + factual reporting is Democracy Now. This news outlet leans quite heavily left but still ranks high in being factual & analytical. So political leanings are LESS important than truthful & thorough reporting of the news.
     
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    Hitler had Goebbels. Who, allowing for the differences, served pretty much the same function.
     
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    And yet no one complained that they were denied the right to vote. Why is it that you cannot supply even one name.

    Raising the minimum wage reduces employment. And those adversely affected are those poorly educated low experienced workers who most need the jobs. Econ 101.

    I’ve done my homework and the policies of the left do harm to those they profess to be helping. Trump has done more in three years than Democrats have done in three decades.
     
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    I'm sure we're all looking forward to your next brain fart with great anticipation.

    :fart:
     
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    yeah you posted an infographic that was extremely biased. My response to do with what you posted
     
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    Posturing bores me.
     
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    The irony is palpable. ^^^^^
     
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    That is incorrect sir.
    18% of their income is taxed. While everyone else is about 27%. A flat tax system if you count all taxes. I GOP scam again. Only propaganda makes it possible
     
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    Bologna Obama had better growth and job production his last three years than Trump his first three years. Change the channel. Read a newspaper not published by Rupert Murdoch.
     
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    This reply to my post made absolutely no sense. Perhaps you should read more carefully.
     
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    delete duplicate
     
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    That is absolutely correct.

    What taxes are those ???
     
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    The last year was less than 2%.
     
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    It was a response to your claim that lower growth is preferable which you have made. You don’t know what you are saying.
     
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    One name of what? Voters purged or lobbyists fighting minimum wage hike? Who are you talking to??

    Wrong.

    * Higher wages increases consumer spending, helps businesses stay strong & grow which increases jobs, spurs further business activity & job growth, helps businesses' bottom line, improves worker productivity, reduces employee turnover & absenteeism, and increases consumer demand.

    * Low wages create financial difficulties which taxpayers have to make up for by financing the increased need for food stamps, Medicaid, housing assistance, workers comp, etc. This in turn means taxpayers have to pay more to keep the economy going, which further reduces money in their pockets.

    As hellofromwarsaw noted, Trump merely inherited Obama's legacy. Go look at the relevant graphs for proof. But still, Trump is destroying that legacy. Currently 44% of Americans earn less than $18,000/year. Plus, we're repeating the trend towards another crash like the one in 2008, the govt/fed reserve is having to pour more & more money into the economy, deficit is $1 trillion, every kind of debt is through the roof, interests rates are being increasingly lowered to stimulate credit/borrowing, etc. Great economy, huh? The economy is great for the corporations & wealthy because of tax cuts & lowered interest rates (which also boosts the stock market)...but lousy for everyone else.

    Check out what economist Dr. Richard Wolff says about Trump's economy in this 6-minute video. It is NOT growing, and is an utter disaster. Wolff exposes the truth about Trump & the GOP's claim that the economy is "great". Wolff has called the pouring of govt money into the economy to be like a heroin addict needing that "fix" to continue to function, yet continues to deteriorate.

    Wolff responds to Trump's State of the Union address (focusing on the economy)

     
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    When did I say "lower growth is preferable"?
     
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