The Billion-Dollar Disinformation Campaign to Reelect the President

Typical ignorance of what happened on Facebook during the election-year of 2017.

For your information, from the Washington Post: Facebook remains platform most favored by governments for manipulating public opinion: Report

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And here: When Politicians Get a License to Lie - excerpt:

So much for what was once "Professional Integrity in Reporting the News" - that is the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth* ...

*Which is what "investigative journalism" should be all about!

 

Wow, are you ever blind to the facts!

See here: One year inside Trump's monumental Facebook campaign - excerpt:

Donald Dork has only one rule in campaigning: The point is to win - so anything goes to achieve that objective! ...

 

~ That means he is actually a Democrat in disguise !
( And thanks for the insults. Glad you have a place to vent. )

 

You have understood nothing that I have posted regarding the matter. Apparently, you would not know the meaning of the Popular-Vote even if it bit you on the nose.

Which is what you deserve for such basic ignorance of Uncle Sam's system of democracy. Some assistance from here: Definitions of Common Voting and Election Terms | USAGov - excerpt:

However, in the US, we've found a way to manipulate that popular-vote by instituting an Electoral College that assigns voting-numbers according to a specialized scheme that not only give votes to some states beyond what they merit in terms of population but also contains the Winner-Takes-All Rule.

This "W-T-A" Rule stipulates that ONLY the winner is allowed ALL THE EC-VOTES of any state. Which means that votes made for anyone other than the numeric-winner are thrown in the dustbin!

And YOU call that a rightful democratic voting-process? Wow! What planet do you live on ... ?

 

We have no national popular vote for president. Nobody runs for it.

yes some states have a Wimer take all rule...it’s not required. Contact your state legislature if you want to change it in your state.

 

Hence why the US form of government is considered a "Representative Democratic Republic". Voters choose people to represent them. The ones that they chose are the ones that make the decisions.

You have already been told this but from reading the rest of the thread it doesn't seem to have quite sunk in. The "winner takes all" of the EC is not based any anything said specifically about it in the Constitution. What the Constitution says is that the States shall choose the Electors and that the States decide in how to apportion those Elector votes. That is why two states, Nevada and Maine do not have a "winner take all" system for the EC. They instead apportion the EC votes. The rest of the States decided on the "winner take all" system. That is why struth told you to talk to your State Legislature. They are the ones that can change how their EC votes go. The Federal government has no say in how each State apportions their EC votes.

Personally I agree with the way Nevada and Maine handle their EC votes and would love it if the rest of the Country did the same.

In any case, when people go to the voting booth and mark their ballot, yes, they are making a "popular-vote". The problem most seem to have is that they don't understand that their vote influences the Electors decision. It is not a direct vote for the President. So no, when talking about the people voting for the President, there is no popular vote for the President. struth was right on that. However the President is still elected by the Popular vote. Just not directly by the popular vote of The People. He/she is elected by the popular vote of the Electors. Generally those Electors vote the way that The People in their State (not across the country) wanted them to vote. Although, they don't HAVE to. They do have the authority to ignore the popular vote in their State and vote for who they want to instead. These are generally called "Faithless Electors". However the State Legislature has the power to overrule them and invalidate their vote. There were 6 States that had Faithless Electors in 2016.

 

~ Return to paper ballots ?

 

~ Interesting. I was wondering about how Electors could sabotage an election but was too lazy to research. Thanks ...

 

Have you ever asked yourself why our Legislative Branch is separated into two separate bodies? The HoR and the Senate?

 

You're losing, bigly.

 

Sure, news is reported factually, and Bill Clinton did not have sexual relations with that woman.

 

About as interesting a response as warm pee.

Try harder, unlock your brain ... !

 

the 'popular' vote is akin to the ec, both never have the majority of voters votes, ergo even the 'popular' winner is in the minority...

the outcry is solely for the fact that those popular peeps didn't get what they wanted...

waaaah! all day long...

they still don't represent the majority, case closed...

 

You calling Obama a liar? Was what Obama said ignorant nonsense?

 

Count on it. You go on Ignore ...

 

Oh really? Where ever did you get that notion? The most recent sounding is not at all confirming that assessment.

See it here - and note the fact that there's a 9% difference in the majority of the Disapproval Rating ...

More importantly, note also that his "Disapproval Rating" has remained constant since July 2017! Note also that this unfavorable rating is not just One Poll but the calculated sum of multiple polls!

At present the differential-rating has reduced somewhat since its highest negative-difference (-15%) in January/2019. But as the Final-Poll date approaches in November, we shall see how well or not he does. Maybe he's a magician and it will flip-positive? And maybe not ...

 

Do you know how to write proper English? The above in red is gibberish ... !

 

Democrats change the rules when they lose, otherwise this would not be an issue. For example, the DNC primary winner is determined by delegate count, not popular vote. BTW, we are not a democracy.

 

No, because he is manifestly unable to understand what a Constitution is! Especially what is written about the presidency. His little "episode" in the Ukraine proved that point.

The guy is reputed to be suffering from an extended narcissism syndrome and he's had it since his youth. About Trump, from here: Malignant Narcissism: Does the President Really Have It? - excerpt:

Or here, Trump a '10 out of 10 narcissist' with long-term decision-making ability of an ‘empty chair’, former Bush official says - excerpt:

His unacceptable behaviour continuously prompts reaction in the same offensive manner. He will not tolerate any negative personal comment. He is incapable of assimilating negative opinion of his person ...

 

Blah, blah, blah.

This is a DEBATE forum and what you submit above is not "debate subject" but person-to-person criticism. Debate is "pertinent exchange" of opinion.

You have no proof or example whatsoever of what you say. If you did, you'd "quote the proof". (That's what quoting is for!)

 

Yes, vote him out of office!

He lost the popular-vote election by a significant margin of 2% in favor of Hillary. And he is the fifth PotUS in American history to be mistakenly elected in such a manner.

Isn't that enough for Americans to understand that their Electoral College is a dysfunctional hand-me-down well worth changing and leaving for political history-books? (Only an unmanipulated popular-vote in most other democracies on earth is employed to elect a head of government!)

Any mechanism that manipulates the popular-vote should be made illegal! Otherwise the vote is fundamentally undemocratic ...

 

How many times do you have to be reminded THERE IS NO POPULAR VOTE ELECTION in this country before you stop spouting that canard?

 

Prove we are a Democracy.

 

Well, making something illegal is one thing, but actually enforcing that law is another. Too many illegals and dead people vote even though that is illegal, and it compromises democracy. One great thing about the Electoral College is that it dilutes the effect of all the illegals and dead people that vote in California and New York. The founders put in place a very good system indeed. It is a good buffer against illegality.

 

Agreed.

How about we use him
To Make America great again? Punish him for all the bad things he did and make him get the truth of mass murder and treason. Serve him right, all this bs.