DNC Changes Debate Rules to Exclude Only Woman in Race

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  1. Thought Criminal

    Thought Criminal Well-Known Member Donor

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    I understood your point to be that the Democrats rigged their primary to exclude Sanders. Am I wrong?

    Then, I understood you to be claiming that the Republicans rigged their primary to favor Trump. Am I wrong, there?
     
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    Who is there to contest and debate? Bill Weld was on the ballot in my state and he barely bot 2%. In what state is another candidate polling at least 20%? How many Democrat debates were there for the 2010 election?
     
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    And Gabbard is polling less than 1% so what’s the big deal in not letting her in the next debate?
     
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    The question that I have is: Why, in the party that champions "diversity" above all else, does a "woman of color" only poll at 1%?
     
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    She's not an ideologue.
     
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    The party of inclusion and diversity? You tell me where they went wrong.
     
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    Yes, on both accounts.
    And I never used the word rigged.

    I think the average voter is naive as to the shenanigans that go on.

    Rigging implies corruption. At my level, I certainly would not have been exposed to anything that would rise to the level of corruption.

    That doesn't mean that I did not see plenty of "questionable" actions. And when it happened you could be sure that there would be some 'shiny' politician or pundit or someone to dazzle us with justifications and semantics; to wit, give us the talking points for what we were about to do.

    In other words, it wasn't ethical, it just wasn't illegal. That worked for some, for others of us it just did not.

    After another election, in another state, and similar experiences, I realized it was time for me to leave party politics behind. I hold no illusions that it's any different on the other side of the aisle. The truth is party politics is ugly. It does not bring out the best in people.

    I am deeply dismayed that over the last 30 years Washington has been able to completely quash any discussion of election reforms.
     
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    I should have given you the short answer.
    Yes. Gabbard is the topic.
    Yes. While I believe that both parties use questionable tactics routinely, the Trump nomination I see slightly different.

    I see Trump as an irrational, backlash candidate swept into office by people crazed with unmitigated rage.* Frankly, I am not at all certain that the party elites could have stopped it and survived themselves.

    *I believe the same about Sanders.

    Rage, not reason, has overtaken this country.

     
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    Outside of that FACT That she:

    1) Has (essentially) ZERO Support

    2) Has No Money

    3) Spends most of her time trashing the Dem. Party

    And

    4) Is trying out for a gig on Faux News?

    Outside of THAT?

    Hmmm...Good Question...:salute:
     
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    So the primaries are a farce with the DNC?
     
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    Of course NOT.
     
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    I would have thought that she would get 20% just for her sex and skin color.
     
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    So, I am completely confused. If you weren't saying that either primaries were rigged, what were you saying?
     
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    Nah.

    It doesn't work that way.
     
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    Are you playing for laughs?

    The question posed is: Why, in the party that claims to champion "diversity" does a "woman of color" poll at 1%?
     
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    That's how they promote themselves.

    Are you saying that they're frauds?
     
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    And....? They pick who THEY want. YOU have no say.
     
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    Well, line up both brain cells then and I'll take one more run at it:

    WaPo floated a headline suggesting that we round file voter participation in favor of an elitist takeover of the process.

    That struck a nerve with me as we're already too close to that. I've told you why I feel this way, there's no need to belabor it or repeat it.

    It was never about rigging this or that primary... It's about the extent of influence that elitists exert in the election process. full stop.

    It chaps my ass.
     
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    WRONG.

    The Voters Decided it.

    The DNC no more picked Biden, than the RNC picked Trump.
     
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    Have you informed Bernie? What's up with Illinois, did he win?

    Your claim is very false.
     
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    .False? How?

    In 2016, there was some DNC "Chicanery".

    Even without the DNC "Thumb on the Scale" in 2016, Hillary would've STILL Won.

    It just may have been alot closer.

    As far as this year, it is all fair and square.

    Bernie's People passed The Rules, so give me a break.

    Bernie LOST (Fair and Square) in 2020.

    As far as Illinois? They vote on the 17th.

    We will see how many Black voters that Jesse can get him.

    And as far as any other thought (especially from anyone supporting Trump who just wants chaos in the Democratic Primary):

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    Cool story man. The DNC makes the choice for you. You are given an illusion of choice. And your opinion of Hillary in 2016 is the stuff of laughter.
     
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    Yet, going back to Kennedy and excepting Carter, all the Dems elected president had good hair or were articulate and clean. Heard a few women say they voted for Clinton because of his hair.
     
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    Both parties.
     
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    ....to elect the person to the office.
     

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