Putin allowed to stay in power past 2024

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  1. vis

    vis Well-Known Member

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    Neither Crimea, nor other territories are occupied. Maybe we better talk how people are tortured and gone misssing in Ukraine?
     
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    If you are not aware, please read about German's General Plan Ost (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Generalplan_Ost).
    Genocide and ethnic cleansing was planned for Russia. This has nothing to do with communists.
     
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    In the world of the internet, you can't be sure of anyone.

    But we DO know the Russian government has something called the Internet Research Agency, [ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_Research_Agency ]
    and you can be sure they are working overtime to influence events in the US -- just as I'm sure we have the equivalent, returning the favor.

    Now ... this is just speculation .... but one of the goals of Russian chauvinists and militarists is to convince the Russian people that Americans hate them and want to destroy them.

    So ... doesn't it make sense that the Internet Research Agency would create some sock-puppets, to post the most disgusting, hateful, insane anti-Russian stuff they can think of -- right out of the Nazi sewer -- which can then be used as proof that ordinary Americans -- especially those in the Armed Forces -- hate Russians as such and want to exterminate them?

    Or ... consider this: not all Islamists are stupid. And one of the things that is ABC about war is that you try to divide your enemies -- don't let them unite. The Islamists hate both Russia and the US. When these two great nations fought on the same side, they were able to crush the mightiest military power the world had ever seen. Now we have another common enemy. The conclusion is obvious.

    Or maybe they're pro-Nazi traitors, still weeping from having their asses handed to them by the Red Army, with our help.

    So ... traitors? Russian IRA agents? Islamists?

    Of course, these sorts of "I'm-a-big-bad-boy-and-I-hate-the-Russians-grrrrr!" posts could just be the mental vomit of pathetic little people with manhood issues, the usual flatulence of armchair pseudo-warriors..
     
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    Doug1943 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Anyone who's really interested in the real Russia -- as opposed to the Russia presented by Russian government propaganda in RT, or the insane crap presented by hate-Russia trolls, should look here:

    https://therussianreader.com/

    It's a complex society, every bit as complicated as the USA -- full of people who are madly loyal to their government, others who hate it, lots of people who are in between. They have protests and demonstrations over corruption at the local and regional level. It takes a lot more courage to be a dissident there, since if Mr Putin really gets annoyed with you, you'll get a bullet in the back. But it's NOT North Korea or Pinochet's Chile or even Mexico under the Cartels.
     
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    I like architecture and German Shepherds too but that doesn't make me Hitler.
     
  6. vis

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    Not correct comparison. Hitler wanted to kill and enslave all Russians. You want to do it as well. This makes you like him.
    Do you read his books before you go to sleep?
     
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    Except for a few excerpts I've never read Hitler's books.

    And I don't want to "kill and enslave all Russians". Just enough that is necessary to strip them of almost all their territory and confine them to a nation about twice the size of modern Germany centered around Moscow. I'll even allow them to keep St. Petersburg allowing them ocean access.

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    Ahh, now you say different words, and rather the territory of Russia disturbs you so much?? Forget about this kind of shrinking. Rather US will go down at the bottom of an ocean than this happens.
     
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    Why?.
     
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    Why US will go down to the bottom of the ocean? Why not? For example, asteroid will hit it. Many reasons.
     
  11. Dayton3

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    Even an asteroid hitting the U.S. would not cause it to "go down to the bottom of the ocean".

    Why you would want the U.S. destroyed is what makes no sense. The only indispensable nation on Earth.
     
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    You wouldn't want that vis......how would you watch Netflix ....Playboy TV.. McDonalds... Walmart.?

    You've indulged in several of those.
     
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    In 20 yrs or less.....there will be no Russia.

    Vatniks aren't screwing enough to repopulate.
     
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    Russia would never allow 4 innocent men to go to Australia, and give legitimacy to what is nothing more than a kangaroo court. Australia's just playing along with Washington to cover up the criminality of Petro Poroshenko, Ihor Kolomoisky and Arsen Avakov in the plane shoot down - all of whom are wanted in Russia for mega crimes against humanity.

    Unlike Australia, Moscow has actual proof of their guilt with 100's of testimonies - so it's not just make believe.




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    I'm sure you sports, heard of our courts
    and how we play the Washington game
    of putting all the unfound blame
    on those who we consider lame.


    For having dared to take the chance,
    of not agreeing with our stance
    and making us a mockery
    by showing our hypocrisy-
    Jeannette
     
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    Where does the US have plans to remove Slavic people's?

    It was Stalin who played ball with Hitler and got burned. Stalin probably read Mein Kampf where Hitler openly called for destruction of Slavs who weren't capable of their destiny.

    And when you say Slavs....don't include many Russkis.....they are Asiatic ...not Slav.
     
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    Why do you actually believe so much that comes out of Moscow?​
     
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    You have a reading comprehension problem. He meant that there's more of a chance of the US sinking to the bottom of the ocean, than Russia breaking apart.

    As for me, I'm glad there is a nation with integrity and some moral fortitude to do what is right and not bow to an evil that has overtaken much of the world. What we have now is the pagan extremisms of 'nationalism' or liberal secularism and on the other side, fundamental Islam. Bravo Vladimir Putin, for guiding Russia well. :applause:

    As for the US, I live here and love my country. I regret though what it has become, in the same way as any moral German would have regretted the pagan nationalism under Hitler and any Russian would have regretted the atheism of Lenin and Trotsky's Soviet Union.

    As for being the indispensable nation, well arrogance always proceeds a fall - and ours is just starting.
     
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    Because facts speak louder than spins and hype.
     
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    No you don't. You can't adore Vlad Putin as you do without hating the United States as you obviously do.
     
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    You believe what comes out of Moscow are actually "facts"? Now you must be kidding.
     
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    Hang on, hang on.
    There wasn't that much difference between Nazi Germany and Communist Russia.
    One was "national socialist" and the other was international socialist.
    Both had the red of Revolution blood on their flags
    They hated each other because they were both fighting for the same socialist interpretation.
    One controlled business and the other owned business.
    Both started WWII.
     
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    I don't get that from reading your posts.
     
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    Are we talking about the nation that engages in industrial strength espionage?
    The same nation that interferes in other nations elections, mostly be stoking social divisions?
    The same nation that snuffs out its domestic enemies, even when those enemies have gone
    to live in other countries?
    The same nation that has its troops in Crimea, Ukraine and Syria?
    The same nation that voted to make Putin, the Stasi spy, Emperor for life?
    The same nation that stymied efforts to control the spread of nuclear weapons?
    Same nation that stoked the 1967 and 1973 Middle East wars?
    Same nation that enslaved half of Europe at the end of the war it help start?
    Same nation that murdered tens of millions of its own citizens?
    Same nation that spread Communism to East Europe, Africa, Asia and the Americas?

    Yeah, that's it -- Russia.
     
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    The court case is not in Australia.
    Let the court decide who is innocent
    The only mega crime in history was the rise of Bolshevism and
    its spread over one third of the world, and the resulting deaths
    of 150,000,000 people.

    ps love the kangaroo gif. We rear kangaroos - have one sitting
    beside me as I type.
     
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    How can anyone say that a bullet in the back comes from someone like Vladimir Putin, who has nothing to gain by it, and not from those who want to demonize Vladimir Putin and who excel in assassination's and false flag attacks? There's no logic to it.

    By the way, what has the MI6 done with the Skripals, none of their relatives in Russia have had any contact with them for 2 years. Julia Skripal is a Russian national, don't you think her relatives have a right to know whether she's dead or alive?

    I don't adore anyone, I respect integrity and despise deceit, hypocrisy and everything else my country now stands for. I don't know where you were raised, but this is definitely not the values of the country I was born and raised in. The ones who did this to my country, the country I was once proud of, have taken it away from me and remade it in their own image - and I despise them for it.





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    What we were once,
    we've ceased to be,
    for times have changed now,
    can't you see?

    The flag that once
    waved high and true
    is now all worn,
    forlorn and blue.

    It mourns for days
    when we had pride
    of noble words and not of lies. - Jeannette
     

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