Putin allowed to stay in power past 2024

Putin is a very intelligent, Charismaticstraight up gangsta. I don't agree with some of Russia's domestic policies but I don't agree with most of our domestic or foreign policies .

Putin is very intelligent, charismatic and experienced in Russian politics. Anytime you want to learn the jest of our American foreign policy you should actually listen to the Vladimir talk.

His most outstanding quality that actually makes a global figure head is the fact is a straight up G.

Many of Russia's domestic policies I disagree but I disagree with most of our federally mandated Domestic policies.


All in al this isn't really shocking news because if they did amend the Russian constitution he would have just put in another puppet.


The majority of Russians absolutely love him for several different reasons. 1 reason being is because of his gangsta nature.

Another reason is that his priorities in office is to return Russia to some of the former glory of the Soviet Union or least reclaim of it's former influence. Which over the decades he has been achieving ...

His practice of locking up journalists, whistle blowers and those who speak out against the Government is atrocious.

Yet our government does the same thing and will even fabricate false evidence against a sitting president in order to make a show out of impeachment process.

If you think about this way.. What are some significant differences between our two countries?

 

10 times? How did You calculated it?

Last 10 years Russia are in constant economic stagnation, with 20 million poor, country with gigantic potential of educated population and all natural resources available are just exporter of oil, with enoumous corruption and average salary miserable 600 eur. I bet, as soon as Putin will die, people will "find out" that he was not such a good ruler, just as it was with Stalin, Hruschov, Breznev, Gorbacov an Elcin. It repeats all the time...

 

It was terrorist Dietmar "The Bomb" Claudeau's quote "I am personally acquainted with Putin on joint work in Dresden."

Why do you believe Putin dealt with widespread corruption?

Let's make a game, each time I respond to this thread, I 'll add another person to the list:

Roma Tsepov. Famous St. Petersburg bandit and solver of the 90s. Friend of Putin. Producer of the series "Gangster Petersburg". In September 2004, poisoned by an unknown radioactive poison (polonium for symptoms).

 

The difference lies in the culture. And how the cultural setting impacts politics. Putin is a product of Soviet corruption and suppression.
"Well, where do people think these politicians come from? " George Carlin

Dmitry Skigin. Mafia financier. He worked with the money of St. Petersburg authorities: Ruslan Kolyak (Gingerbread, Bogey-eyed), Sergey Vasiliev, Ilya Traber. He was the "brain" of the gangster privatization of the Big Port of St. Petersburg, an intermediary between the city hall (in the person of Putin) and the bandits in obtaining the necessary decisions and permissions from the city authorities.

 

Agreed that he is highly intelligent and charismatic. But also a murderer and a power-hungry individual and gangsta.
Thats making the world very dangerous, much serious now in lights of the developments we all predicted years ago, that Putin will be the everlasting president.

“At the head of Russia is a gangster. He is just an organized crime figure, and controls the government and vast territory there ... ” (Marco Rubio, Senator, US presidential candidate in 2016. From a speech to voters on 28.08.2015).


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Bejamo the Younger (Assyrian organized crime group). This is which in 2016 stole 200 billion rubles from Vneshprombank and rushed to Monaco. Member of cuts at the Olympics in Sochi.
Shoigu, security officers of the “Dresden group” Tokarev (Transneft) and Belyaminov (head of the Russian customs in 2006-16) kept their money in his bank. Bejamo threw them all safely.

March 2014. Putin awards Bejamo with the Order of Honor.

 

You think that Russian trolling is a conspiracy theory til threads like this.

 

If that's true, the PF accounts don't seem automated or robotic, that means that there are people behind the screens that actually have no brain, no integrity, no shame, no consciousness for what they are doing.

I specifically called out @Jeannette in my first post here, where I exposed her in the previous threads about the developments of power grab and how she told us the constitutional changes actually limits the president's power and the greatness of Putin, haha...

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Victor Zolotov. Tsepov’s colleague in hazardous business. Under Putin - the chief of his personal guard, the commander of the Russian Guard.

 

Seems like some are running panicky over Putin's new constitution, and that their hopes are being smashed about taking over Russia, and robbing it and breaking it up the way they did under Yeltsin.

Now how about some reality rather than the demonizing and stupidities - which Washington and the MSM seem to excel in. Here are excerpts from an article by Sharon Tennyson who lived in the Soviet Union and Russia for 30 years and actually met Vladimir Putin:

"...This bureaucrat was open, inquiring, and impersonal in demeanor. After more than an hour of careful questions and answers, he quietly explained that he had tried hard to determine if the proposal was legal, then said that unfortunately at the time it was not. A few good words about the proposal were uttered. That was all. He politely showed us to the door.

Out on the sidewalk, I said to my colleague, 'Volodya, this is the first time we have ever dealt with a Soviet bureaucrat who didn’t ask us for a trip to the U.S. or something valuable!' I remember looking at his business card in the sunlight –– it read Vladimir Vladimirovich Putin..."​

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"...Almost immediately Putin began putting Russia’s oligarchs on edge. In February 2000 a question about the oligarchs came up; he clarified with a question and his answer: What should the relationship be with the so-called oligarchs? The same as anyone else. The same as the owner of a small bakery or a shoe repair shop..."​

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"...Four months later Putin called a meeting with the oligarchs and proposed a deal: They could keep their illegally acquired wealth-producing Soviet enterprises and they would not be nationalized if taxes were paid on their revenues and if they personally stayed out of politics..."​

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"...Lastly, each was asked: 'So what do you think of your new president?'

None responded negatively, even though at that time entrepreneurs hated Russia’s bureaucrats. Most answered similarly, 'Putin registered my business a few years ago.'

Next question: 'So, how much did it cost you?'

To a person they replied, “Putin didn’t charge anything.” One said that they had gone to Putin’s desk because the others providing registrations at the Marienski were getting 'rich on their seats.' In other words, Putin had been earning a reputation for honesty and fair-dealing..."​

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"...A senior officer at the Center for Strategic and International Studies whom I was friends with in the 2000s worked closely with Putin on a number of joint ventures during the 1990s. He reported that he had no dealings with Putin that were questionable, that he respected him and believed he was getting an undeserved dour reputation from U.S. media. As a matter of fact, he closed the door at CSIS when we started talking about Putin. I guessed his comments wouldn’t be acceptable if others were listening.

Another former U.S. official also reported working closely with Putin, saying there was never any hint of bribery, pressuring, nothing but respectable behaviors and helpfulness..."​

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"...The second encounter was a former State Department official with whom I had participated in a radio interview on Russia. Afterward while we were chatting, I remarked, “You might be interested to know that I’ve collected experiences of Putin from numerous people, some over a period of years, and they all say they had no negative experiences with Putin and there was no evidence of taking bribes.'

He firmly replied: 'No one has ever been able to come up with a bribery charge against Putin.'.."




WWW.Consortiumnews.com
Volume 26, Number 75–Monday, March 16, 2020​

 

I'm glad you don't condemn him completely. To keep order in his country and to achieve his goals he has to take off the gloves sometimes. To be sure, some of these journalists and opponents are working for the West to run a smear campaign against Putin.

A significant difference between the US and Russian government would be the "no spying on their citizens"!! That alone is significant.
Another noticeable and pleasant difference is that Putin comes across as a reserved and disciplined man in contrast to Trump.

 

Funny, it looks like she was detained Defender of Putin, Detained in Russia: American Activist Deemed U.S. 'Agent' well I hope she enjoys Russian democracy.

Anyway, don't you have any other claim backup?

Why don't you like my people list? I have reached 15 until now.

Hint: They all connect to Putin and backup for my claims. Sometimes fascinating and brutal stories, the past Italian Mafia in the US pales in comparison.
Try it dear, its a click away.
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Vladimir Grunin, KGB colonel, in the 90s - top manager of Russian Video and Konti (the network of Misha Kutaisi casino in St. Petersburg).

 

What are his goals, what do you mean by taking off the gloves sometimes?
From what I understand, I think we are in agreement.

Why do you think Putin doesn't deserve smearing.

Back up your claim.

Agreed, but your deliberately missing on key points from your comparison, eg. willingness to commit murder

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Shabtai Kalmanovich. KGB agent, authority of the Solntsevo organized crime group. In 1971 he emigrated from the USSR to Israel. Engaged in business in Africa. He made a fortune on muddy deals with local kings (diamond smuggling in Sierra Leone, casinos in the bantustans of South Africa, etc.). He established close ties with the top of the Russian mafia in the United States (lads with Brighton Beach). He was arrested in Israel in 1987 for espionage (he was surrendered by a KGB defector). After leaving prison, he joined the Solntsevo organized crime group. Killed in a showdown in 2009

 

You can either believe it's good for someone to rule a country forever or not. Clearly though it's not.

 

1) Putin's goal is to bring Russia into the 21st century militarily and economically.
2) I remember that Putin's gloves came off when dealing with hostages. Remember, a whole school was once held hostage?

a) Putin is an honest and deeply religious man, who does not deserve smearing.
b) Only Trump is willing to commit murder - we recently witnessed the murder of that Iranian General.

That guy was a Zionist, not a Russian! Shabtai Kalmanovich (18 December 1947 – November 2, 2009), alternatively spelled Shabtai Kalmanovic, was typical of the KGB agents sent to Jewish occupied Palestine to work in the organization’s fledgling mirror establishment Mossad. Kalmanovich was born in Kaunas, Jewish Bolshevik controlled Lithuania to a Jewish family in 1947."

 

You're right, it's about time something was done about Netanyahu, maybe the bombing in Syria will stop. They can't even get rid of him on corruption charges.

Then there's Queen Merkel, the owner of the EU.

 

So you say.....you've also stated several different occupations to different members here.

 

Not wishful thinking.....true. Moskalis aren't ****ing to make little Mongols.

Alcoholic, low libido, wife beating(Kremlin actually legalized it), vatniks don't seem to know how to treat the ladies.

Speaking of which, you're not doing your part to produce little vatniks in Moskva.

Instead you're in Germany flirting with German foxes.Thats an awful mix you know! Do you have an "Attack Berlin45" bumper sticker on your BMW?

 

Stalinovka was naive to think he could do business with Hitler. And he paid for it. Chamberlain, Italy, France were naive, but weren't a "threat" unlike Moskva.

I said are MANY vatniks are Asiatic. It shows itself in their Asiatic tribal fiefdom your oligarchs portray. Little Ghengis Khan's....and you know it.

The wiki link isn't entirely accurate. True Slavs are Poles, Ukes(that aren't poisoned by Russki Asiatic gene pool).

 

Oh yes, Mrs. Angela Merkel! Much hated and cursed by many Germans. I see that on a German Forum.
A leader of the German anti-immigration party AfD has described Chancellor Angela Merkel as the "worst in history" in a scathing attack.

 

There are no differences between cancler in parliamentary republic and president in super presidential republic? After Merkles will all German parliament vote as she wish and there are no opposition in Germany?

 

Thats why he lied to people about occupation forces in Crimea? Klinton got impeachment after he lied to americans, can guess twice does it was any consequences to Putin after his lie...

 

The truth is that he, Putin, did not lie! It is the lying West who tries hard to make Putin look like a reckless bully.

 

Since when does one reveal a military operation? Now live and learn:

According to the Treaty, 25 thousand Russian troops were stationed on Crimea. Russia on humanitarian grounds, conducted a military operation to free the Crimeans from their illegal Ukrainian occupation, after Washington installed a fascist government in Kiev with a coup.

"...Exactly three years ago, on March 16, 2014, the Crimeans were offered a choice: to rejoin Russia or to return to the constitution of 1992 that proclaimed Crimea a legal, democratic, secular state whose relationship with Ukraine was based on bilateral agreements.

That constitution was unilaterally abolished by Kiev on March 17, 1995... (when) special ops forces from the Security Service of Ukraine (SBU) and the Armed Forces of Ukraine (ZSU) landed in Crimea and Sevastopol in order to establish «Ukrainian law and order..."

https://www.strategic-culture.org/news/2017/03/28/so-who-annexed-crimea-peninsular-then/

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Pretty much says all you need to know about the AdF right there.

 

Thanks, Jeannette, for clearing up that muddle.

 

The American colonies had the highest standard of living in the world even before the revolution. Why they revolted is anyone's guess, but they did. As for our Founding Fathers, they were highly devout seminarians, and it's reflected in our Declaration of Independence and Constitution as well as in all of their writings. It was also reflected in our puritanical morals and ethics, and I can recall a time when we were laughed at by other nations because of it. Well that's gone, and we are what we are today.

As for Russia, they believe they were invaded by the West every 20 - 25 years in one way or another. The last would have been in the 90's when its wealth was stolen.

And as for the book you mentioned, it was written by Leon Trotsky an advocate of continuous revolution and anarchy and therefore a mass murderer and psychopath. But then again so was Lenin. There are some in Washington who admire and even emulate Trotsky, and it's been unfortunate for us and the world.