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Can you stop with the theatrics? Were you falling to your knees in 2009 when H1N1 infected over 61,000,000 and killed more than 12,500 men, women, and children?

 

Democrat leaders probably whined that it would be "racist and xenophobic". Like they already have. So chances are, you can blame them.

 

~ Stress is bad for the immune system...

 

This is not the time for unfactual opinions, seriously let's get real here, without closing the borders it was going to get here. Closing off China 3 weeks ago helped but only closing the border would have kept it out. Now we get all this crazy fear with little deaths and most came from one nursing home with very sick people. This is not like the swine flu, way less deadly and this government has been way more aggressive way earlier than what we did with swine flu. CDC learned a lesson there, we're on the front end of this thing and attack the spread to insure healthcare system can handle the truly sick. You can't disregard the facts, so let's stick to those for now. Be safe, Be clean, avoid crowds for the next few weeks and we'll all be better off for it. This panic spread is stupid.

 

So is negatory thinking. Real bad. As bad as a dilatory, lazy-arse body.

We all gon die!!!!

 

We can respond to an epidemic because of the "green"...money. The U.S. and Europe have become melting pots and have many tourist attractions, bringing in visitors, migrants, and global businessmen from all over the world. It makes sense that we would have more communicable diseases, like the flu on a regular basis.

 

If rank a country based on what you mention, namely how much you have to spend to fight an epidemic, then that would make sense. But how well prepared you are to fight the spread of an epidemic should factor in everything and ultimately should be measured, not by how much you have to spend, but how effectively you will be able to contain the virus from spreading. On the latter, past experience doesn't show the US to be particularly well suited to actually contain the spread of such viruses, regardless of how much it spends in comparison to some other countries.

Besides, it should be embarrassing that a country like Iran has put up 30 laboratories specifically for the coronavirus, has started producing millions of face masks, millions of liters of sanitizing liquids, etc, and runs the tests for the coronavirus for free, while the US is facing shortages of face masks etc, charges up to $1,200 for the coronoavirus test, and just seems so inept at handing even the still small number of people who have been reportedly affected by the virus at this early date (early for the US, given that the virus began spreading in the US only recently).

 

There isn't a lot we could do. Testing or no testing, the virus would have come to the U.S. We have a population of over 17 Million Asians here plus some unaccounted for illegal migrants from Asia. The virus started at the most inopportune time possible, coinciding with the largest global population movement of the year, when Chinese ex-patriots go back to China for family reunions. The U.S. and Europe were going to get hit regardless of whatever U.S. and E.U. governments did or didn't do. Now the Coronavirus Task Force is saying that the most recent cases are sourced from Europe, no longer from China. China is under control and now Europe is the largest hot spot.

Viruses are not political.

I think you underestimate the power of the people to take care of ourselves. Relying on government is always a bad idea, even though our government will move money, people, and resources to assist, hopefully sooner not later. But mainly, the word is out that the virus won't jump off a chair and attack you. It's mainly spread by large droplets from people who are visibly sick. Wash your hands. Keep your distance from people who are coughing/sneezing (preferably 6 feet). Stay home if you are sick.

We'll beat this.

 

Artificially acquired passive immunity.

Antiserum. Works but has limitations. Quicker to perfect and deploy than vaccines.

 

Great points.

So many weak knee people in this country who think others are responsible for them. And that more than any other is why i hate liberalism, the damn nanny state and mindset it creates.

 

While I have read report suggesting what you mentioned, including from the WHO, there are contrary reports which suggest the virus can and has sometimes spread simply by laying dormant on surfaces where it can survive for days. The public health message in Iran at least, where we do have a lot of experience with the issue lately, is to avoid touching smooth surfaces and wash you hands if you do. There is even a whole 'protocol' of sorts being suggested for bringing home groceries and for your clothing (although the virus doesn't seem to last on clothes too long).

Anyway, this is a new virus and information about it is still lacking and somewhat speculative, but from what I am hearing from medical professionals interviewed on Iranian television, the virus can indeed be passed through touching surfaces etc.

 

We could have done what S. Korea and Singapore have done. They've got this pretty much under control. We're flying blind. Even now, there are things we could be doing:
1. Shut down all the schools
2. Start building hospitals and quarantine centers

Of course they aren't. The response to viruses IS politics. We blew it. We're still blowing it. This country is acting like a deer in headlights. We finally started taking it seriously just two days ago. Even Italy was more on the ball than that.

Individuals can't build hospitals. They can't put themselves on a ventilator in an ICU. Of course you rely on government in times of natural disasters. That's what government is for.

We don't know exactly how it spreads. It's a cold virus. It's likely a combination of droplets and virus-shedding (i.e., touching stuff other people have handled, and then touching eyes, nose, mouth). My last couple days teaching (I'm on Spring Break now), the thought that kept going though my head all day was: don't touch your face, don't touch your face. It's hard not to touch your face.
http://www.cidrap.umn.edu/news-perspective/2020/03/study-covid-19-may-spread-several-different-ways

Sure. Someone compared it to passing a kidney stone. We got this, but it's not going to be fun.

 

Our government can't get anything done quickly. Yesterday Senators Fischer (R) and Sinema (D) wrote a very simple bill to get N95 respirators to America's First Responders. Democrats refused to pass that, because they always want to add a bunch of "goodies" to everything, instead of just passing a bunch of short, quick, clean and understandable bills which would do immediate good for the country. So you are correct. We toss a bunch of "extra" money at things because we can't get a "Yes" vote on anything without a bunch of barely-related earmarks. Now firefighters don't get to have respirators. Congress is good on talking; not so great on doing. It's up to the citizens to take care of ourselves.

 

I'm not buying that, either.

 

Wasn't he being criticized for downplaying it?

 

Liberals can whine. That they completely dominate conservatives on.

Often reminds me of the needy wails of a toddler.

 

The people who will put a burden on the health care system are likely to be the same people who think there is some shortage on toilet paper. They're going to be swamping the system, demanding tests if they cough one time, instead of following directions to just stay home and do not call your doctor unless you are very sick and do not go to an emergency room unless you're having a heart attack or break your leg.

We should have capacity to handle the people who catch the virus and really do need a physician's care or hospitalization, as the sick will be spread out over several months, and not all need care at the same time.

Panic will swamp the system if anything does. Democrats, led by Pelosi, demanding that "everyone" should have access to a free test are not helping the situation.

 

We don't need to build an excess of hospitals. There are cities which have neglected to provide enough beds per 1,000 people for their growing citizenship (like Seattle). Seattle purchased a motel that was for sale in order to place recovering people who no longer need oxygen or other advanced care. We can find beds without building hospitals, though it should be a wake up call for cities which have been neglectful in that area.

Shutting down schools is only necessary in areas where there is broad community spread, like Seattle, New Rochelle, and Santa Clara where they have not been able to track down sources and the virus has gotten out of control. Those entire areas should shut down schools, large events, and restrict travel to not let anyone come and go through at least the end of the month, IMO.

You and I disagree on whether the response to the virus is the responsibility of politicians. People who think that big government is actually going to save them thinks that the government should save them from coronavirus. Small government people, like myself, will save ourselves regardless of what our incompetent government does or doesn't do. You are counting on government and seeing failure. I'm not counting on them and will just wash my hands and be a little less social in the community than normal.

If the government does anything, you will think it is too little, too late. If the government does accomplish anything, I'll be pleasantly surprised. They are doing a good job so far communicating with us, and now we just have to see if they can manage to negotiate any legislation or if they stalemate every day for weeks or months.

 

Same principle with how they use to make snake antivenom. They would begin injecting a horse with minute doses of venom, increasing it over time until the horse was getting some crazy amount of far more than a lethal dose that would kill a horse with no immunity. Then it's blood serum was injected into the bite victim.

 

Yes and his supporters are still, which is my point.

 

Shutting schools down is state decisions not an federal government decision, not even sure why that was even brought up. We live in a republic, not a socialist state, thank god....

 

I don't know what reality you're in where you think this is "a good job so far communicating with us":

"“Anybody that needs a test gets a test; they’re there, they have the tests, and the tests are beautiful,”"
Or this
"“We have contained this,” Kudlow told CNBC. “I won't say airtight, but pretty close to airtight. We have done a good job in the United States.”"
Or this
"we're very close to a vaccine"
Or this
""And again, when you have 15 people, and the 15 within a couple of days is going to be down to close to zero, that’s a pretty good job we’ve done."

Can you answer a simple yes/no question? Was it a mistake for Trump and company to say all that?

 

Trump should resign. People will die because of this freak of nature who if nature was perfect, would have been a spontaneous abortion. Anyone would have handled this crisis better even by just deferring to the experts in any place in the world.

 

Are you still pushing the "this is like the flu" narrative? Even Trump gave up on that days ago.

 

If this post is not proof that "diversity is our strength" is a lie, nothing is. We are in state of national emergency and partisans can not put their hatred for those with different political beliefs aside and unite for the common good of the nation. This is why America is fundamentally broken. Compare the above post to how Japan responded to the Fukishima disaster with their volunteers willing to die to save the country from further damage. In America we are not willing to back a leader with a different ideology even to save the country from disaster. Undeniable evidence of a nation dying. Japan will be around long after we are gone.