Trump Considering 'Full Pardon' for Gen. Flynn

The funny part, is you really don't need an ENDLESS loop of stupid **** Trump has said and tweeted throughout his term..

Throw a dart.... you cannot miss...

 

Flynn isnt a criminal. He is a victim of a soft coup against trump

He should be pardoned.

 

Then that date should be revised to coincide with the national election, as that's the only thing that makes sense. Think about what some would want to sentence Flynn for: Asking the Russians to exercise diplomatic tact and avoid a worsening relations with the US. That's a WIN. We don't want escalations, we don't want to risk our people unnecessarily.

When an act of peace becomes a crime, what then is war? What then is crime?

Unlike in the Manafort, Gates cases, etc. These actions didn't enrich anybody, they kept the country safer.

 

LOL.. there's 200 plus pages of "connection" between the Trump Campaign and Russia, but not the point of this thread...

But even so, you don't seriously think either Volume will be forgotten under a Biden DOJ. do you?

 

That seems hopeful. Democrats win if America suffers. I wonder if they would do what they can to make this communist bio attack as damaging as possible?

Will shutdowns be the new normal?

 

Connections aren't criminal. but as I said: I would love for a Democratic DOJ to indict Trump. No, really, I want to see which one of the 1,000 idiots would like to stake their career on a prosecution they're likely to lose.

If Comey said "no reasonable prosecutor" could indict Secretary Clinton, when the evidence there was beyond overwhelming, then we can equally say no reasonable prosecutor could indict Donald Trump.

Unfortunately the key word there is "reasonable". This case may very well have to be litigated with a democratic administration.

(It'd be ironic though if a Democratic prosecutor came out and said the same thing though vis-a-vis Trump. I wonder how that'd fall over?)

 

Oh, I fully agree what Flynn did doesn't rise to the level of scumbaggery of a Manafort, Gates, Stone, Cohen, or Trump... Not even close.

But that he did it is in very little dispute and that it was against the (very obscure) law is also pretty clear...

Don't forget what McGahn told Mueller on that topic...

 

Weak on crime Criminal-in-Chief Donnie strikes again. MAKING WHITE COLLAR CRIME GREAT AGAIN.

 

He deserves it and those who abused their power here held accountable.

 

Geeez you people just can't stand you lost an election so let's just dismantle the country. Get a grip.

 

Being brutally specific on the Logan Act, it was meant to prevent civilians from representing the government without authority to do so. I don't hold that to apply to the transition team, as that is the incoming administration. I mean, for god sakes if it did apply why are you giving transition teams(of both incoming Democrat/Republican presidents) security briefs.

We know that Secretary Clinton got a brief on Crossfire Hurricane, but not the President. And she(obviously) wasn't in anywhere near the same kind of legal status that applies to the Trump team on January, 2017.

One of the reasons we have this current law tragedy, is that we are using law as a blunt baseball bat, instead of applying law as to do justice.

 

There was no Logan Act, a 200 year old law that has never been used, and incoming transition teams are recognized government agencies and National Security Advisers are EXPECTED to talk with foreign government including what will be their policies. Flynn did a good thing diffusing the situation Obama was recklessly trying to create on his way out to hang of the Trump administration. There was no OOJ with Comey.

You keep claiming all these crimes that no one was charged with and for which there is no evidence.

 

LOL... getting security briefs is equivalent to communicating a response to US sanctions to the target of those sanctions in your world?

Double LOL... The Trump campaign was the TARGET of Crossfire Hurricane... and again, that's an internal US situation, not dealing with Logan Act implications/foreign governments.. Also, I've never seen that Clinton got a "briefing" on Crossfire Hurricane... Please provide a link...

Don't make me go Triple LOL on you...

 

I can do you better then a link. Go look up the third Presidential debate between Trump/Hillary, she practically bragged about the classified info she received.


And yes, it's equivalent. Flynn certainly had enough legal agency in my view to communicate to the Russians not to respond to the sanctions. In no way, did that impede US Policy unless somehow we'll argue that an escalation from the Russians was in line with "US Policy"(which seems to be from Trump's inauguration onward to 'F Trump').

Again, Flynn didn't intercede with the US Government to stop the sanctions from happening. He asked Russia to hold off on any response, until they were in power. I don't see how we can criminalize Flynn's actions and call ourselves a free and prosperous country.

That would be LOL worthy indeed, but on a sad note.

 

Crimes go uncharged every day in the USA, and there is ample evidence were anybody interested in pursuing it...

Lordy, there are tapes, once somebody interested in pursuing the law is installed as AG...

However, I suspect what Flynn did won't ever be pursued for Logan, in lieu of much bigger fish to fry in 2021.. and I'll lose no sleep over that...

 

Asking Russia to "hold off on any response until they were in power" (BTW, you just admitted they were NOT in power), can easily be construed as "ignore the sanctions imposed by the current administration because they will go away".

I ignore all you people claiming Flynn did good here... that's beyond contempt.

The sanctions were fully warranted, as evidenced by future Intelligence, House and Senate findings, and Flynn had no legitimate business or power to contradict them.

 

And no one was stopping any sanctions. All Flynn was doing, was asking the Russians to hold off from hostile action. And no, they weren't in power but I argue they easily had enough agency to be able to request the Russians to hold off from hostile action.

You can construe anything(in fact, Crossfire Hurricane confirms that's EXACTLY what happened.) but unfortunately, construing things don't get you anywhere closer to the truth!

Construing things(and then removing the evidence that doesn't fit said narrative) is what Mao did, it's what Pol Pot did and other dictators around the world. I didn't think we'd be here, but here we are.

 

The FBI lied to Flynn & told him he didn’t need a lawyer.

Saying he didn’t need an attorney is worthy of a pardon.

Anyone who cooperated with the FBI going forward is crazy. Talk to my attorney & if you are arrested, never cooperate without an attorney.

 

Its honestly kinda surprising that anyone could still defend the Democrats after they tried a coup.

 

Let's just stick with the ones you are claiming. He wasn't charged with a Logan Act violation because he did not violate it. As the incoming NSA in the OFFICIAL transitition he had every right to be talking with the Russian ambassador and in fact it is expected and those talks would include the incoming administration's positions on matters. Why do you think we have offices of transitions?

 

Yawn boring Mueller charged him with perjury and even the lost fbi files and Comey said they didn't believe he was lying. He was the incoming NSA director and should've been talking to leaders to make a smooth transition. This whole thing was to try to get him to roll on somebody but there wasn't anything to roll. Dumbest prosecution ever. Logan act lol, you mean the one that's never in the history of our government been used? Reeking of desperation again I see.

 

He said nothing about lifting sanctions.

He advised him that Russia shouldn't do anything rash, what did you want him to tell him go to war? I would have thought the Obama administration would have thanked him.

You want to investigate something then investigate why after allowing Russia to walk all over the US did an outgoing President create an international incident by apply sanctions he would not have to enforce throwing that on the the incoming administration, an opposition party. Let's get those emails and tapes and interview all those people involved.

 

LOL So you saying Muellor couldn't find it because he sure as hell said to the world that NO AMERICAN COLLUDED WITH RUSSIA but you the boards numero uno Russian conspiracy theorist, still insinuating there was. I think I'll take the one without the tin foil hats word for it.

 

Biden is a loser

 

So it will be 2 in a row?

Sad...