About the Holocaust

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  1. Grau

    Grau Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You must be brimming with hate because, according to the ADL(1), at least 2/3 of the planet is comprised of what brainwashed holocaustians call "Holocaust deniers".

    That's right, there are far fewer hate filled, gullible & professionally deceived adherents of the holocaust cult than there are people who have even the modest critical thinking ability to see through the grossly exaggerated standard holocaust narrative in spite of a complicit MSM that continually recycles the fraudulent holocaust narrative.

    The number of gullible and professionally deceived holocaustians is probable even fewer when you consider that many Western countries have criminalized "Holocaust denial" and many people responding to the poll would be reluctant to violate draconian "Holocaust denial" laws that are essential in perpetuating the fraudulent holocaust narrative.

    So, you'd better get busy since there are over 5 billion people with enough sense to reject the grossly inflated holocaust myth, you've got a lot of hating to do.



    (1) ”THE WORLD IS FULL OF HOLOCAUST DENIERS”
    https://www.theatlantic.com/interna...he-world-is-full-of-holocaust-deniers/370870/

    EXCERPT “Only 54 percent of the world's population has heard of the Holocaust.

    This is the most staggering statistic in a new survey by the Anti-Defamation League (ADL) of more than 53,000 people in over 100 countries, conducted by First International Resources.

    Only a third of the world's population believe the genocide has been accurately described in historical accounts.

    Some said they thought the number of people who died has been exaggerated; others said they believe it's a myth.

    Thirty percent of respondents said it's probably true that "Jews still talk too much about what happened to them in the Holocaust."

    - Hindus were most likely to believe that the number of Holocaust deaths has been exaggerated.

    - people younger than 65 were much more likely to say they believe that facts about the Holocaust have been distorted”CONTINUED
     
  2. pitbull

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    Not specifically Holocaust denial. Because they suffered from Nazi atrocities, they have laws against the denial and approval of Nazi crimes. That includes the ban on Holocaust denial.

    I think if someone in the US says Bin Laden was a hero and the destruction of the WTC was a feat, he will also have trouble with the judiciary. :(
     
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    Nope, If someone published an editorial praising what bin Laden did, he would be widely condemned but not locked up.

    Only the fraudulent Holocaust narrative is so fragile that it needs draconian censorship laws to protect it.

    The truth welcomes the sunlight of open and honest examination while a lie can only survive under the darkness of repressive censorship laws.
     
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    pitbull Banned Donor

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    Although Holocaust denial is allowed in the US, Holocaust deniers can be quite unlucky there. :)
    https://www.smithsonianmag.com/hist...-then-sued-holocaust-deniers-court-180970123/
     
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    Truth tellers like Copernicus, Galileo etc have frequently been unlucky when confronting wealthy & influential entities but, to this date, no one has been able to support the fraudulent notion that millions were systematically killed in an industrialized manner by the Nazis.

    The Mermelstein case using "judicial notice" proves nothing since the opinion of an establishment judge in California is meaningless in relation to historic realities.


    “To the present day a written order by Hitler regarding the destruction of the European Jewish community has not been found, and, in all probability, this order was never given.”

    - Walter Laqueur, Was niemand wissen wollte: Die Unterdruckung der Nachrichten uber Hitlers Endlösung (What Nobody Wanted to Know: The Suppression of News About Hitler’s “Final Solution”), (Berlin-Vienna, 1981), p.190
     
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    Nope; Mermelstein was an inmate of Auschwitz-Birkenau. He had to prove that to the judge. Case law is never a matter of opinion.
     
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    From your link: Mel Mermelstein Survived Auschwitz, Then Sued Holocaust Deniers in Court
    Fed up with the lies and anti-Semitism, a California businessman partnered with a lawyer to prove that the murder of 6 million Jews was established fact

    But its NOT an established FACT never was never will, proving that the american judicial, the just-us club are rigged!


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    J-Ws claimed 6million J-Ws were gassed 4 million at Auschwitz.

    So we have 6,000,000 - 3,000,000 equals 3,000,000 allegedly gassed J-Ws total.

    That brings the FACT for day down to 3 million!

    Only a Marxi-Commie-Zionist protaganist zealot J-W would continue to claim a lie is an established fact.

    The only mathematical system I can find that could possibly come up with those conclusions would be:

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    If not the mathematical system depicted above, whats your explanation for this phenomena?

    How do we still get 6 million after subtracting a minuscule oversight of 3 million?
     
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    Those were mistakes. Around 1 million victims of gassing in Auschwitz are realistic. There were also many other death camps and mass shootings in Russian and Ukrainian woods. The total death toll is about 7,5 Million.
     
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    No records have ever been produced, no mass grave sights have ever been exumed that could be attributed to Germans. Russians are another story.

    There would be massive bone yards, so I will need to examine your records, if you cannot produce any then I will be FORCED chock it up as another J-W fabricated LIE, to add to the cesspool of all the proven to be fabricated J-W lies that have no and most often contrary evidence.

    We know that there were LESS THAN 340,000 prisoners that ever set foot in auschwitz because WE HAVE THE OFFICIAL RECORDS.



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    We know how many J-Ws entered the camp, and the deaths are all accounted for with a total of a mere 60,000 J-W deaths with a complete fact sheet how they died thans to the Russian records that we now have access to.

    Even the "mostly J-Ws" mantra is a fabricated fantastical LIE!

    1.) I will await the MATERIAL evidence that you rely upon in support of these "mass graves" that you allege. :evileye:

    2.) Whats your explanation for this: How did 60,000 actual J-W deaths (not by gas) magically turn into 4 Million J-Ws by gas, if not a GIGANTIC J-W LIE?
     
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    It was a gigantic communist lie. For the Soviet's Marxist ideology, capitalism and the free market were the cause of Nazism and the Holocaust. So they falsified the death toll to harm the West.

    After the Eastern Bloc went down, all their lies were exposed. :)
     
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    The records above clearly detail the fact of how many prisoners were executed.

    MEMORIAL AND MUSEUM


    FORMER GERMAN NAZI
    CONCENTRATION AND EXTERMINATION CAMP

    Poles were also executed in Auschwitz on the basis of “special treatment”—people regarded as a threat to the Third Reich were sentenced to death without trial.


    Execution was carried out by shooting, gassing, hanging, and starvation.


    3.) Explain what kind of screwed up logic it takes to "execute by hangin or firing squad or starvation" if all they had to do was toss em into a gas chamber? :evileye: WTF!

    It defies realms logic to go through all that trouble when all they had to do is gas along with everyone else. (but then so does the J-Ws story about different collored smoke coming from the crematoria!

    4.) Explain how J-Ws seen different color smoke coming from a crematoria when its fact that crematorias DO NOT SMOKE!
     
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    1.) So you admit no investigation into the J-W numbers claims was ever made?

    Germany and several other countries are paying huge war reparations to the J-Ws for the last 70 years, based on 6 million which you now admit is a fabrication.
     
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    FALSE!

    Its not 'THEIR LIES',

    The LIES that you call THEIR LIES were produced for public consumption by Russian J-Ws and reproduced an propagated by EVERYONE in government and the deniers propagating the truth were drowned out in the media, by J-W owned MSM.

    Those LIES are NOW EVERYONES LIES
    that continue to FALSELY CLAIM J-Ws are the victims of the VERY WAR J-Ws DECLARED on Germany.

    5.) Where are the answers to the rest of the questions you are required to answer?
     
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    Everything was examined and the result got better and better over the years.

    Almost everything has been researched about the Nazi era, although the Nazis had destroyed a lot of evidence towards the end of their reign of terror.
     
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    Yes that is why we now know for a fact that the J-Ws LIED, you admitted it!
    Thats a nice conspiracy theory, no MATERIAL EVIDENCE to that conspiracy has ever been known to exist! .....and we know that ALL J-W testimony is 99% LIES.

    1.) Please post 'ANY' MATERIAL EVIDENCE that you rely upon to make such a claim so I may review it.
    You are very confused, Hitler had no known TERROR Campaign what so ever, in fact he sued for peace 7times and 7time ignored by the allies, that was the Marxi-Commie-Zionist J-W department, and we know that for a FACT Zionists were the perps of the TERROR campaign since we have the documented historical records!

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    2.) If you disagree feel free to post ANY MATERIAL EVIDENCE your TERROR claims are factual.
     
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    He is Scottish
    He and many Americans just hate the illegals who have invaded us
     
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    He is the biggest friend that Israel has ever had
     
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    Yep, here we go folks, back to pillow talk! :couple_inlove:
     
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    I think they're are some JEWS left in Berlin but very few ??
    Many of the Russian JEWS are fakes
     
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    The Nazis estimated that 11 million Jews would fall into their hands if the Soviet Union were conquered.

    They stopped the mass-murdering in Auschwitz because they had to withdraw from the Red Army. British and Americans came from the west to hunt Hitler. That was the end of Nazi terror. Nevertheless, many prisoners still had to die. They were driven out of the camps on a death march to nowhere. Most died of starvation or were shot.
     
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    This would have saved mankind lots of suffering ...



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    detects dangers before they arise. :)
     
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    Nobody doubts that Mermelstein may have been an inmate at A-B but it has never been proven that the Germans murdered millions of people in a "systematic and industrialized manner".
    The hard evidence like written orders, intercepted radio transmissions, a commensurate number of mass graves, homicidal gas chambers etc simply doesn't exist.
    It would have taken hundreds of homicidal gas chambers to gas millions of people .... where are they all?

    To arrive at the fictitious number of "6 million Jews killed", the Nazis would have had to gas and cremate 20,000 people per day at A-B as is claimed in holocaust lore(1).
    That means the Nazis would have to have gassed and cremated almost 1,000 per hour which is physically impossible even if A-B had the amount of coal required which they did not.




    “THE CAMPS”
    https://www.bxscience.edu/ourpages/auto/2012/3/1/36224384/holocaust - the camps.htm

    EXCERPT “ One group went to the gas chambers within a few hours; these people were sent to the Birkenau camp, where more than 20,000 people could be gassed and cremated each day. “ CONTINUED
     
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    According to Eli Wiesel and others, the prisoners went willingly rather than fall into the hands of the more ruthless Russian army of rapists, murderers and thieves.

    In other words, they were not "driven" anywhere. They chose to flee the barbaric Red Army.
     
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    If they slowed down they were gunned down ...

     
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    You're still repeating the Holocaust denier's false claims. :(

    That’s not true either.
     

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