About the Holocaust

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  1. Quasar44

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    People who hate the JEWS should be super happy that 6 million were killed.
    IT would be unfair to only blame the Germans as many nations were just as key in the aid of the NAZIS.
    Don't forget how Hungarians and Romanians Turned on their JEWS and were just as bad as the SS.
    Even the Dutch did everything possible to turn in JEWS for profit.
    Ukraine had many guards at the Camps
     
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    Pitbull could be doing many things but its amazing how he takes the time to come here and defeat deniers.
    Very blessed man !!!
     
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    Thank you, bro!

    I almost became a Holocaust denier and Islam hater by myself.
    Then I dug deeper and found hatred, pro-Nazism, lies, and madness ...

    Indeed, today's Germans are very nice people.

     
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    Looks like the thread has degenerated into pillow talk :couple_inlove:
    I asked that you two get a room to keep your pillow talk separate from the holocaust discussion, but I guess when you are backed into a corner so tight you cant breath thats all you have left :rolleyes:
     
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    Don't be sad, buddy. Holocaust history has so many aspects that we can talk about every day still in 20 yrs.

    Let's talk about the great Nazi hunter Fritz Bauer: https://www.fritz-bauer-institut.de/en/fritz-bauer
    He was the mastermind behind the investigation into the Adolf Eichmann case and the Auschwitz trials in Frankfurt.

     
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    MORE EVASIONS


    Even though I've repeatedly asked you to produce any hard evidence to support the standard holocaust narrative you continue to evade doing so.

    You have never answered these questions I have repeatedly asked because you have absolutely no evidence to support the holocaustian lies you've been duped into believing.

    For at least the fifth time, I will ask you to please show anywhere where there is a written order(*) for the mass executions that holocaustians claim killed 11 million people (6 million Jews + 5 million others).

    Where in all the intercepted German radio transmissions(1) is there any mention of a genocidal agenda?

    Where are the commensurate number of mass graves(2) containing the remains of 11 million people?

    Where are all the "Death Showers" (aka homicidal gas chambers?

    You have never produced any evidence to support the outrageous lies that you have been duped into believing that have been generated by the influential, multi billion dollar Holocaust Industry and its complicit MSM.

    Re:
    Please show where anything I have written and supported is a lie.





    (*). “To the present day a written order by Hitler regarding the destruction of the European Jewish community has not been found, and, in all probability, this order was never given.”

    - Walter Laqueur, Was niemand wissen wollte: Die Unterdruckung der Nachrichten uber Hitlers Endlösung (What Nobody Wanted to Know: The Suppression of News About Hitler’s “Final Solution”), (Berlin-Vienna, 1981), p.190


    (1). “THE HOLOCAUST NARRATIVE”
    https://archive.org/stream/BreakingTheSpell_48/BreakingTheSpell-Kollerstrom_djvu.txt

    EXCERPT “In 1941, British Intelligence analysts cracked the German “Enigma” code. This undermined the German war effort—but also threw new light on day-by-day events in the Nazi concentration camp system. Between January 1942 and January 1943, encrypted radio communications between those camps and the Berlin headquarters were intercepted and decrypted.

    Oddly enough, historians have largely ignored the information furnished in these intercepts relating to “arrivals,” “departures,” recorded deaths and other events at these camps.The only reasonable explanation is that the intercepted data contra-dicts, even refutes, the orthodox “Holocaust” narrative.

    The information does not expose a program of mass murder and racial genocide. Quite the opposite: it reveals that the Germans were determined, desperate even, to reduce the death rate in their work camps, which was caused by catastrophic typhus epidemics.”CONTINUED



    (2) "Auschwitz Was NOT a 'Death Camp' - Holocaust Survivor Testimony"
    https://archive.org/details/AuschwitzWasNotAdeathCamp-HolocaustSurvivorTestimony

    EXCERPT "Investigations of physical evidence and original documentation, however, have cast doubts on the Holocaust narrative that has been formed. For example, areas claimed to be mass graves, have been found with modern investigative technology to contain no human remains.Testimonies of accused perpetrators show evidence of outright fabrication, or were obtained through torture. Many of the supposed eyewitnesses have provided stories riddled by inconsistencies, describe physically impossible events, or were even total frauds who were never actually in the camps." CONTINUED
     
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    No written order was found so far. A written order would not have been necessary.

    Your question will be answered in more detail here
    --> https://www.hdot.org/debunking-denial/ah1-hitlers-orders/

    Let's bet that you'll ask the same question again in a few days ... :D
     
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    STILL MORE EVASIONS



    The obsession that gullible & professionally deceived holocaustian cult members have with labeling people whose arguments they cannot refute as "Holocaust Deniers" is simply further proof that they can't support the fantasy they have been duped into believing.

    Re:
    Doing what? Rejecting what is perhaps modern history's most egregious and criminal fraud and outrageous conspiracy theory that the Germans murdered about 11 million people?

    Only the most gullible of anti German racists would believe so many holocaustian lies with so little evidence to support them.
     
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    I wouldn't be asking these questions now if you had already answered them in your own words.

    Written execution orders existed for every actual mass killing throughout history so, of course written orders for Nazi mass executions would have been necessary. How else would a genocidal agenda throughout the conquered territories comprising the Third Reich have been communicated ......... telepathically?

    The claim in your Holocaust Industry propaganda link states that Hitler communicated execution orders orally which is not only absurd but contrary to the procedure used in every genuine genocidal undertaking.

    There is absolutely no record of Hitler spending years driving around from work camp to work camp or chasing "gas vans" verbally ordering who to kill and who to spare so you still haven't answered the question in your own words.

    Please think for yourself.
    How does one verbally communicate specific execution orders to kill millions of people to thousands of people across thousands of miles for years and yet leave no trace of a record anywhere?

    Why do intercepted German radio transmissions not only omit any mention of a genocidal agenda but even indicate that the Germans tried to save lives, not execute people?

    EXCERPT "The information does not expose a program of mass murder and racial genocide. Quite the opposite: it reveals that the Germans were determined, desperate even, to reduce the death rate in their work camps, which was caused by catastrophic typhus epidemics.”CONTINUED(1)



    (1). “THE HOLOCAUST NARRATIVE”
    https://archive.org/stream/BreakingTheSpell_48/BreakingTheSpell-Kollerstrom_djvu.txt
     
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    Zero point in debating “DNA damaged “ Idiots
    The Holocaust has as much evidence as any event in history
     
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    I have seen that juvenile conspiracy theory, posted before. In the big leagues it works like this, no written order not gonna happen. Its hilarious that some people are or more than likely pretend to be so naive to think that anyone would do such a thing without a get out of jail free ticket, an order. Bottom line like all the other J-W claims its all bullshit compounded on top of more bullshit, every time J-Ws get busted lying they invent a new set of lies to cover those lies and the stories have gotten so absurd its glaring and even the biggest dum dum with a broken bullshit meter can figure it out.
    Yeh I was surprised not so much one response to: http://www.politicalforum.com/index.php?threads/about-the-holocaust.552312/page-48#post-1071529904
    Which of course every legitimate court on the planet accepts as admission of guilt by the accused, but look at the bright side, you can still call names when all else fails, but then we figured that out already.

    Mastermind? Again you cant be serious, he was all butthurt because hitler arrested him and simply wanted to get revenge by hook or crook any way he could, and he did. J-W blood libel revenge has 100% ZERO to do with justice and to champion injustice only brings you down with them.
     
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    In fact, some SS gangsters tried not to be punished as recipients of orders, as tools without a will for Hitler's death machine. "I was just following orders!", they whined.

    But the court saw it differently. Nobody has to obey inhuman commands. Especially Germans, as members of an old cultural nation, should be able to distinguish right from wrong.
     
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    That's right. But the more time goes by, the more blurred it becomes.
    Soon no more HC-survivers will live.
    Holocaust deniers should try again in 100 years.
    Then maybe they will succeed. :(
     
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    Does Germany have many of these deniers ??

    I would say US has 10-15 percent deniers of this ;plus ,moon landing , Earth being flat and 911 conspiracy that Jews did it
     
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    American deniers are most dangerous because of guns
     
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    You don't seem to understand that the HC has nothing to do with me at all.
    I am just a simple person who can be wrong. If you refute my mistakes, you haven't refuted the Holocaust.
     
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    The good guys have bigger guns. :D
     
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    If you have nothing at all to do with the holocaust, why are you posting falsehoods about it, slandering the Germans and still reciting residual Allied WW 2 propaganda as if it were true?

    Before I express my opinion on something, I research the topic, weigh opposing positions and decide which position is the most credible before I write my fact based opinion.

    There are many things about which I will admit that I know little but I consider myself reasonably well informed about European History during the WW 2 era of which the holocaust was just a small part.
    If I were not reasonably certain that the Germans were innocent of the fraudulent accusations attributed to them by the victorious Allies, I would not be expressing my opinion so strongly.

    On the other hand, you have admitted that you have not researched the holocaust very thoroughly but strongly maintain positions you cannot support. Therefore, your opinions on the Holocaust must be based on emotions and holocaustian "groupthink" rather than fact.

    Why do you express such strong condemnations slandering the German people when you admit that you "...can be wrong."

    Briefly put, if you cannot support your beliefs about the Holocaust, why do you hold them?
     
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    People who have enough common sense to reject outrageous lies told by the influential, multi-billion Holocaust Industry have already "succeeded" in the sense that only about 1/3 of the world's population still believes the fraudulent holocaust narrative.

    It's even more encouraging to know that younger people are more likely to reject the lies generated by the Holocaust Industry & its complicit MSM.


    ”THE WORLD IS FULL OF HOLOCAUST DENIERS”
    https://www.theatlantic.com/interna...he-world-is-full-of-holocaust-deniers/370870/

    EXCERPT “Only 54 percent of the world's population has heard of the Holocaust.

    This is the most staggering statistic in a new survey by the Anti-Defamation League (ADL) of more than 53,000 people in over 100 countries, conducted by First International Resources.

    Only a third of the world's population believe the genocide has been accurately described in historical accounts.

    Some said they thought the number of people who died has been exaggerated; others said they believe it's a myth.

    Thirty percent of respondents said it's probably true that "Jews still talk too much about what happened to them in the Holocaust."

    - Hindus were most likely to believe that the number of Holocaust deaths has been exaggerated.

    - people younger than 65 were much more likely to say they believe that facts about the Holocaust have been distorted”CONTINUED
     
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    Germans are no longer Nazis. That doesn't seem clear to you either. Anyone who detests Nazi crimes is not an enemy of the Germans.

    I live in Germany. Everyone here hates racism, anti-Semitism, and the Nazis. Our new Nazi party AfD is currently destroying itself. The AfD spook will soon be over.

    I see the denial of the Holocaust as a threat to Germany. Those who deny the HC try to rewind history and put Germany back into its darkest time. I can't accept that.
     
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    Why then is the insatiably greedy and fraudulent Holocaust Industry(1) still demanding more and more money from today's Germans?

    If it's not about the money, why is no amount of money enough?

    By perpetuating unsupported lies about a "systematic and industrialized genocide" you're only condoning fraud.


    1. "Children of Holocaust survivors want German government to pay for psychiatric care"




    2. "80 years on, Austria’s Jews renew demand for Holocaust reparations"
    https://www.clevelandjewishnews.com...cle_20c2a8b0-3725-5281-9c09-2c0751fae4c2.html



    3. "Death Train: Will Germany Finally Pay the Holocaust Survivors of Iasi?"

    https://www.nbcnews.com/nightly-new...-finally-pay-holocaust-survivors-iasi-n778336

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    (1). "HOLOCAUST CLAIMS CONFERENCE FRAUD LIKELY ‘MUCH HIGHER’ THAN $57 MILLION"
    http://www.jpost.com/Diaspora/Holoc...aud-likely-much-higher-than-57-million-408298

    EXCERPT "Writing to the Claims Conference’s board last week, recently terminated ombudsman Shmuel Hollander asserted that, while reports had said organizational insiders had siphoned off $57 million in German taxpayer funds meant for survivors, “the final sum is in all probability much higher.” CONTINUED
     
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    Germany is the legal successor of the so-called "3rd Reich". We had to pay some reparations to the Jews, but it wasn't an exaggeration. Today's Germany is one of the richest countries in the world.

    In the spirit of intercultural understanding and peace, I appeal to you: stop denying the Holocaust! It leads to nothing. Thanks in advance. :)
     
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    That sounds like you are an Antifaschist. I call them "Nestbeschmutzer"! They are at the bottom of the mob, but very militaristic. They love to set cars an fire!

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    German Police DESTROYS ANTIFA thugs at Hamburg Germany G20 Protest


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