‘Postal Service will not survive the summer.’ Lawmakers warn it could go bankrupt

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  1. Well Bonded

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    A lot of people cannot do that due to the generous amount of trees around their property, which they cannot have cut down.

    Keep in mind geostationary satellites are in the Clarke Belt 22,300 miles above the equator and in order to receive a signal from one a clear shot generally to the South is required, trees will severely attenuate the Ku band signal making reception and transmission impossible, more so as one moves North and the elevation of the dish is lower to the horizon.

    Because of that I literally cannot install any dish's on the South side of my home because I cannot clear the trees on the property South of me, I had to install all of my dish's on the NW corner of my property in order for them to work H2H and I have 5 acres to work with, some people out here only have 2 acres and locating a dish is just not possible without installing a Rohn 265G tower and setting the dish up 35 to 55 feet in the air and that gets expensive.

    The materials for a basic 35 foot tower with a fixed guyed top section is $2200, add to that permitting, concrete and labor and the cost complete is over $5000, and then one has a dish on the top of what is basically an air terminal, so figure having the system blown to heck at least every few years by lightning and that requires buying a new system and paying a tower monkey $750 to $1500 to go up and replace everything uptower as well as the coax which will normally be popcorned.
     
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    That's what I have out here, my mail is delivered to a postal substation which is 6 miles from my home and if I receive a package that will not fit into a locker or they run out of lockers then I have to drive to Clewiston which is about a 50 mile trip.
     
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    Good internet service is not why we live in the country. But it would be nice to have it.
     
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    I doubt it was ever meant to take a loss. An artificially manufactured one at that.
     
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    *clap* Damn good post.
     
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    Yes, because the Constitution has got no process for legal Amendments. Or does it?
     
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    I know of some small rural towns where there is no delivery but you can rent a box or have it sent General Delivery and they hold it for you to pick up.
     
  8. Professor Peabody

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    What's stopping them? My Brother is in the same boat, he had a tree stripped of the top branches and had the Sat Dish mounted on top of that one tree.
     
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    The postal service is going bankrupt for one reason, and one reason only. The Republican Legislature under GWB forced them to FULLY FUND their pension liabilities up to 2056. That makes them not only financially a looser in the short term.. It also makes them less competitive just because of their legally mandated financial requirements that are not the same requirements of their competitors.

    A postal carrier makes an average $17 per hour. The equates to $35,000 per year. So pension is 70% of full year salary ($24,500), that means that the USPS has to fund that pension for that person thru 2056 which means today, they have to fund 46 x $24000 on DAY ONE just for that ONE employee. And ongoing, that means that they have to pay each employee salary plus 70% every year.

    They are being legally taken down to the benefit of large private donors....hmmmmm weird huh.
     
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    Out here you start cutting down other peoples trees and there is a good chance you will go to jail.
     
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    Agreed..
     
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    It seems their pensions are the problem then. That's easy to fix, convert their pension plans to Social Security Benefits = 401(k)'s.
     
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    You mean how the Corona stays active on paper for 72 hours, is the essential you are crowing about :)
     
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    No I actually filter my email and if someone or some company sends unsolicited email/text/phone I immediately report them to the FTC.
     
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    Happens to me too, and I too do know some people that also use the coupons that come in the mail.
     
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    By the way one should never mount a satellite dish on a tree, it will never stay properly aligned, and if the dish is used for internet, doing that would create an FCC rule violation.
     
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    That was originally how it was done, dropped off at the nearest office !!!!
     
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    Then it's a tower. Those folks chose to live in the tulies. Besides, are you saying they have no phone service either? If they do then DSL service is still available over the phone lines. I live in the mountains where satellite is blocked by physical barriers and there is no cable. So, I have over the phone lines DSL service. BTW I was referring to a tree that was topped and no longer growing. If that doesn't work build a tower. It's just one of the costs associated with living in the middle of no where.
     
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    Perfect! By eliminating the route carriers, the USPS can stay in business.
     
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    I would imagine they could start off with the remote routes, but that is going to take an act of congress.
     
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    ummmm, you're not paying attention. They DID have that. The republicans wanted to destroy the Post Office, just like they wanted to destroy Obamacare. They were smart enough to not do it overtly, but they did it just the same. This isn't debatable. They destroyed the POS office for personal and political gain.
     
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    Most areas have phone service but DSL is a distance limited service, while POTS can go out 18Kf without a problem and even further with load coils but ADSL at 18Kf can barely do 1 meg down on 24 Ga copper and even then it's hanging on by a thread, however if the pairs are loaded ADSL is not possible, load coils block the frequencies utilized by ADSL to carry data.

    Then there are internal rules based in SAC (Serving Area Concept) with Century Link their SAC limit for ADSL is 3Kf if a sub is beyond that limit they cannot order ADSL, while ADSL will work beyond 3Kf CL has decided the troubles caused by such outweigh the revenue that could be earned.

    At Bell South are SAC was 18Kf and then it was dropped to 12 Kf due to the number of troubles cause by long loops and iffy copper pairs, after we where acquired by AT&T the SAC was shortened to 6Kf.

    As such we had potential subs who had ADSL, cancelled went to cable only to find out it was worse and then tried to comeback from cable, only to find out sorry no more ADSL for you leaving them with no service at all.

    As for building a tower I already posted the costs of doing such and in some residential areas they are not permitted if higher than 12' higher then the homes roof.


    "In addition, antennas covered by the rule may be mounted on "masts" to reach the height needed to receive or transmit an acceptable quality signal (e.g. maintain line-of-sight contact with the transmitter or view the satellite). Masts higher than 12 feet above the roofline may be subject to local permitting requirements for safety purposes. Further, masts that extend beyond an exclusive use area may not be covered by this rule."

    https://www.fcc.gov/media/over-air-reception-devices-rule
     
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    good point, so like $10 to send a letter, but how many letters do we send, mostly I receive junk mail

    I wonder if private woudl switch to like once a week delivery, to lower the costs

    though mail has been pretty reliable all my like, just seems unAmerican to kill the postal service
     
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    I can't filter the emails. That would filter some customer emails. The FTC doesn't care about your spam. That part is a waste of time.
     
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    They won't have any choice when they run out of money.
     

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