Tracking the COVID-19-Virus in Germany, the USA, Italy and other hot spots in the world

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    I think that the problem is the choice in the comparison and I don't know that we have the data yet to do the appropriate comparison.

    IOW's we are a Continent of 50 states so rather than just comparing us to Italy we should be comparing ourselves to the entire EU instead. Alternatively compare only the NY data to Italy and Germany to CA and Portugal to Oregon.
     
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    Just another indication of the weakness of a Just In Time Supply Chain Model that cannot handle anything outside of "normal" parameters.

    Commodity trading is just another form of gambling IMO and this should be a warning to the fossil fuel cartels that the world is changing and they are going to play an ever diminishing role in it. The concept of working from home is going to significantly reduce the demand and as more nations follow the lead of Norway those that still commute will use EV's instead.

    Interesting and while not really germane to the thread topic I appreciate you sharing. Perhaps another thread on the changes we will see in the future could be started with this as the OP. If you do start one then please provide a link to it.

    Now back to our regularly scheduled tracking topic. ;)
     
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    :roflol:

    We can all recognize Covidiots because they are the ones NOT wearing masks in crowds!

    SCNR ;)
     
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    Virtually every other western nation is providing their hourly workers who cannot work now with some kind of subsidy or other.

    That is what it means to have leadership in place during a ongoing pandemic.

    Leadership FAILING to provide these measures in a surefire way to end up with mass protests that will end badly for the entire nation. No one will be unaffected and that INCLUDES the wealthy elite.

    So putting them back to work when there is no one to buy anything that they produce is a dumb idea. Rather provide them with the basics until this pandemic is over. That will keep everyone safe.
     
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    Good morning, PFers,

    I got up a little late this morning....

    HERE the COVID-19 numbers for last night when I went to bed in Germany. Here the first screenshot from the countries table from last night, my timezone:

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    You can see from the world figures at the top where we landed, numbers-wise, when I did my EOD report.

    Now, here the countries table (4 screenshots) for EOD GMT +0, when Worldmeters finishes the daily accounting of COVID-19 stats:

    2020-04-020 EOD GMT (Greenwich) 001.png
    2020-04-020 EOD GMT (Greenwich) 002.png
    2020-04-020 EOD GMT (Greenwich) 003.png
    2020-04-020 EOD GMT (Greenwich) 004.png

    You can see that we went from 2,474,131 to 2,480,503 COVID-19 cases between EOD GMT +2 and EOD GMT +0, +6,372 cases in those two hours.
    We went from 169,922 to 170,397 total deaths in the same time-frame, +475 deaths.

    In the USA, we went from 788,694 to 792,759 COVID-19 cases between EOD GMT +2 and EOD GMT +0, +4,065 cases in those two hours. That's 63.97% of all new cases around the world in those two hours.

    In the USA we went from 42,263 to 42,514 total deaths in the same time-frame, +251 deaths. That's 52.84% of all deaths that were reported around the world in this 2-hour time-frame.

    I highlighted a number of countries beside the USA in the EOD countries table for GMT +0 above, because I think they are very important.

    First, Germany ended the day (Greenwich time) with +220 new deaths, which is an extremely high number for Germany. Surely these are patients who have either been on ventilators for a long time or who died in nursing homes and the paperwork has now been correctly completed. Also, Canada, which has about 10 times less people than the USA, reported +103 new deaths.

    In screenshots 2 and 3, I highlighted a number of nations where the new cases from yesterday represent a very large growth rate over the day before:

    Belaruß: 31.07% growth rate
    Singapore: 21.65% growth rate
    Bangladesh: 20.03% growth rate
    Cameroon: 14.36% growth rate
    Oman: 11.37% growth rate
    Kazakhstan: 10.51% growth rate

    By comparison, Russia, which had far more raw new cases, actually had a daily growth rate under all of these: 10.05%

    If Belarus continues growing at this rate, then it will be over the 10,000 mark in 2 days and over the 20,000 mark in four days after that.

    The Germans have a phrase that @gnoib knows well: "Kleinvieh macht auch Mist", which is their way of saying that all the smaller stuff adds up, too.

    You will notice that I also added the fourth screenshot: that's a number of nations under the 1,000 mark, but you can be guaranteed that in the next three weeks, 26 of those 27 will have gone over the 1,000 mark, because each day, at least one, if not two or more nations have been crossing over the line. You can see that right now, Bulgaria is at 929 cases and jumped +35 cases from the day before (and hint, this morning, after EOD GMT, it did it again, with +36 cases, now at 966 total), so it's pretty likely that tomorrow at the latest, Bulgaria will go over the 1,000 line. Sometimes, the "smaller" nations make huge jumps all at once: Both Oman and Cameroon did that a number of days ago.

    Ok, and now, to this morning, my time, at 11:21, GMT +2 (05:21, EDT in the USA and Canada), from 10 minutes ago:

    2020-04-021 BOD 001.png

    Here the excel-table (you can see the complete table if you click on the link in my sig-file):

    2020-04-021 BOD 002.png

    And here the countries-table (4 screenshots):

    2020-04-021 BOD 003.png
    2020-04-021 BOD 004.png
    2020-04-021 BOD 005.png
    2020-04-021 BOD 006.png

    This is how we are beginning the day. Russia has already reported +5,642 new cases.

    Without a doubt we will cross over the 2.5 million mark today and will land where we land. I make no predictions about the number of expected confirmed COVID-19 cases that will be reported today, because we have had everything between only +62,000 cases and just under +100,000 cases in the last five days, back and forth. Certainly, the growth is no longer uniform, but I am not sure if that is a good or a bad thing, at least, not yet. If past is precedent, then we will likely end up the day with around 175,000 dead from COVID-19, but possibly considerably more. If the number of healed people continues at this growth rate, then we will have between 685,000-695,000 officially well people at the end of the day.

    Stay safe, stay healthy,

    Stat
     
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    Good posting, well written.

    My former father-in-law, who teached economics at a "Volkshochschule" (roughly: a vocational college) once had a conversation about 15 years ago with me about money (Bargeld) and said to me, in German: "you know what makes currency work? Peoples' belief in it". And I think he was very right.
     
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    Oh....................... oh, well, we all see Ad-shem in different ways. However, this thread is not a revival tent, mkay?
     
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    NOTE to self: big, disfunctional family is growing. The uncle out of Bethlehem has arrived. Need more places (6 foot distance) at the table. Wash dishes at 197.5 degrees for 15 minutes. Cook vegetarian. Oh and dance as if this is it, baby.
     
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    "Look, there are 5,000 wild wolves out there. I think I'll open the barndoor and let the sheep out to graze for a while. What's a little blood, man? I mean, they used the stuff at passover, it can't be all that bad."

    -nobody, ever.
     
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    I do not have any info but we do have history as a guide. The 1918/19 pandemic experienced a brief lull and then came back in a more lethal form. At that time masks were virtually the only thing that gave anyone much of a chance since medical technology was still an infant. The 2nd wave mutation must have occurred during the lull and it was then that everyone was letting down their guard and were protesting the wearing of masks.

    So yes, we can expect this virus to mutate and we have no idea of when, where or how it will occur.

    Secondly VIGILANCE is essential in order to identify it quickly and IMMEDIATE ACTION must be taken to contain it as soon as it is detected. If that means shutting down whatever has restarted then SOBEIT.

    The final aspect is to take whatever time we have during the lull to EQUIP ourselves in ways that will STOP if from spreading and TREAT those infected SOONER rather than later.

    These are hard lessons we have learned. Let us not discard them lightly because we do so at our own peril.
     
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    :shocked::shocked: :shocked: :shocked: :shocked:

    So,

    :megaphone::

    :mrgreen:



    Good to know I'm not the only one to screw up now and then!!

    Hallelujah, amen
     
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    Or re-open with major restrictions and with some of the things the Japanese have been doing for years.
     
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    Hard surfaces and working in close proximity are prime conditions for the virus irrespective of the colder temperature.
     
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    My condolences to all involved. :(
     
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    Spain has released it's daily report, at least for the AM: +430 deaths, almost 4,000 new cases. Spain has tested 930,230 people (that's circa 2% of their population), and 204,178 tests have come back positive. That's 21.95% (so... 22%) of all tested cases.

    2020-04-021 BOD 007.png

    So, that's the second or third day in a row where Spain has had under 500 deaths, at least in the morning report. Let's just say an average of only 400 deaths per day.
    What happens if you have 400 deaths per day over an entire month? Well, that's 12,000 deaths alone from one country out of 200 across the world.

    If this is not a peak in Spain, but rather a very long plateau, then that's a problem all on it's own.

    Imagine NYC having a plateau like this for 90 days, and meanwhile, the hotspots in the USA would have moved elsewhere (Boston, Philly, Atlanta, Miami, Cleveland, Cincy, Detoit, Indy, Lousiville, Des Moines, Kansas City, Oklahoma City, Houston, San Antonio, El Paso, Chicago, Milwaukee, Meatpacking plants in, say, North Dakota...)
     
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    Andorrah is looking pretty good now with its 4 new cases and 1 new death. I want a ticket. [​IMG]
     
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    If you think that Quarantäne, day 35 is bad, just wait until we hit day 1,000!

    Here, 'famous' Argentinian lip-syncher Luciano Rossi will let us know how that day looks:



    (Humor has healing qualities, nööööö)
     
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    I hear that it's cold as hell on Enceladus, but there are NO COVID-19 cases there!! Should I book spaceflight tickets for both of us???
     
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    Not leaving my dog, cat and birds ( do they have tiny parakeet sized space suits?), and then there is my books. Just how big is the ship?
     
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    Your mocking has to tell yourself, and anybody here, that we couldn't go too far with this Plague. If you don't die strangled by Covid-19, you will kill yourself for the troubles, the anguish, the worries. No, it can go far like that...

    It's time (for sure) to start the ...

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    ... end credits...


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    We just hit the 2.5 million mark between 13:53-13:56 my time (GMT +2):

    2020-04-021 MOD 2,5 million prep.png

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    2020-04-021 MOD 2,5 million hit chart.png

    We hit the 2.4 million mark a 1.5 days ago (23:33 GMT +2, 2020-04-019).
     
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    It is just a matter of time. Also Singapore was pride to have a total control of the Plague. But a Plague is a Plague, and it hits harder those one deserve it more...

    From ‘gold standard’ to a coronavirus ‘explosion’: Singapore battles new outbreak

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    "...
    SINGAPORE — Just weeks ago, Singapore was a coronavirus success story, admired for pinpointing infected patients and isolating their contacts with brisk efficiency, all while causing minimal disruption to an economy that was the envy of Asia.
    But the island city-state is now battling to control an enormous outbreak spreading among a population that officials had mostly overlooked: the migrant workers who form the vast but unseen engine of Singapore’s prosperity.
    The new wave of infections offers a stark illustration of the continued risks facing one of the world’s most densely inhabited regions — and of the coronavirus’ often disproportionate toll on the poor and marginalized.
    COVID-19 cases in Singapore have tripled since the start of the month to more than 3,200, with most of the new infections found in laborers from India, Bangladesh and other countries who live in crowded, airless dormitories on the edges of the modern, manicured city-state they’ve helped build.
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    The dormitories — where workers often are made to sleep 20 to a room in bunk beds, share kitchens and bathrooms, and enjoy hardly any personal space — have allowed transmission of the coronavirus to explode. Singapore said Tuesday that it had quarantined eight dorms and would lock down dozens of others, effectively confining 200,000 workers to their rooms as authorities ramp up testing and isolate the infected.
    ...." (TO BE CONTINUED CLICK ON THE LINK)




    Andorra, as well Singapore, bases its economy and its high high standard of living on the well performing dirty money laundry, as it does Swiss, Luxembourg, Bahamas. I have a little State like that just around my shoulders...

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    ... San Marino, they have more bank agencies than inhabitants, and everybody there is richer than Croesus. I am sure the virus, there, will kill also their pets...

    Those kind of people that helps all the Mafia Bosses, heroin and cocaine traffickers, pimps, corrupted politics and tax evaders to save them self. And the reason why, tangibly, nobody has stopped that wrong doing is that, large part of our leaders needs those pirates islands. Look at one of the better...

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    ... Mr Tony Blair: when he finished his duty as Prime Minister of U.K., he, and her wife, they bought a palace in the downtown of London. The price of the palace in the downtown of London is 5/6 times the money (officially) he (and her wife) they declared to earn in all their life.

    Tax havens, and money laundry came in handy at a very bunch of people, all around the World. And they will never close them. For sure.

    But now it's time to shift from a tax haven to a Plague hell...


    Redde rationem


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    I want to ask you some very simple questions. These are not designed to 'simplify' your ideas, so much as to give us a foundation on which to build an deeper understanding of what you have already written.. English is not your first language but here is a metaphor that may explain my goal. I think if we know which broad direction you are blowing, we will understand the gusts and swirls better.
    Try not to use a paragraph yet and fully explain yet, but one or two simple sentences. You can build later.

    Name three big mistakes you think Italy did wrong in fighting this virus effectively.

    1. Did not do -------- fast or well enough.
    2.Did not do -------- fast or well enough
    3. Did too much -----------


    Name three big mistakes you thing we in U. S are doing wrong in fighting this virus effectively
    1. Did not do -------- fast or well enough.
    2.Did not do -------- fast or well enough
    3. Doing too much -----------

    What do you think we need to know to begin to loosen the rules of quarantine or do you think we should do it now without knowing anything?

    We need to know--------

    we need to know--------

    I know this is hard, and you have a lot to say, but I think this will help understand the big points first. I Promise you my intentions are good and sincere.



     
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    With all due respect, the article you referenced refutes your theory that a higher power is punishing the wealthy elites with the plague.

    Disproportionately, this virus is impacting crowded and impoverished migrant camps, (as well as people who work face to face with the public for low wages, such as grocery store clerks, nurses, and bus drivers).

    While this virus is hitting rich and poor without bias, more poor and impoverished people will be hit by a significant margin. Why? Surely not because any higher power wants to punish the poor, but because the very rich make up 1-10% of the population, which leaves 90-99% of the Earth's "downtrodden" for the virus to prey upon.
     
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    It's not all bad. Water just hit $77 a barrel.
    Things have a way of evening out. :)
     
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