Tracking the COVID-19-Virus in Germany, the USA, Italy and other hot spots in the world

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  1. LangleyMan

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    What am I thinking...?

    Too many things are going wrong. I am sure many others will go wrong, in other issues. I just think this is the Beginning of the End. And I explain why here in this thread...

    http://www.politicalforum.com/index...econd-coming-as-judge.571459/#post-1071616884


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    Better... Listen to me. Since now till the End of this period, anything it could go bad, it will go bad... Just an example:

    Negative - $40 oil reflects panic - and U.S. crude market economic reality

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    "Traders desperate to avoid owning oil fled the markets on Monday, sending crude futures into negative territory for the first time ever, in recognition that the coronavirus pandemic has sapped demand for fuel and there is not enough storage for the massive glut of oil present on U.S. soil.
    Investors sold the May futures contract due to expire on Tuesday in a series of waves. At one point the contract hit negative $40. When the trading stopped, crude oil had ended the day at a negative $37.63 a barrel, a decline of some 305%, or $55.90 a barrel.
    For as sudden as the day's declines were, it was weeks in the making. The coronavirus pandemic cut fuel demand worldwide by roughly 30% beginning in early March, but for several weeks, the supply of oil worldwide has continued to build. Even the recent deal by OPEC and other major oil-producing countries to reduce supply will not be fast enough, nor large enough, to drain the millions of barrels of unneeded crude present in the markets.
    That unwanted oil is instead going into storage, but in the United States, storage is filling much more quickly than anticipated. Cushing, Oklahoma, the tiny town of less than 10,000 people that serves as the main U.S. storage hub, was 70% full as of last week, and traders say it will be full within two weeks.
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    Put it into your mind: if God wants, He moves also mountains...



    I go sleep, see you next time...


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    Just for giggles I'll track Georgia to see how their experiment with relaxing the rules works.
    Interesting they don't meet the recommendations to begin doing that.
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    Only 20% ever get off a ventilator. The older you are, the less chance you have.
     
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    Please do, but what is your source? The daily case count doesn't match WorldofMeters or Covidtracking.com.
     
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    I am pretty sure death ends the conscious sense of being; of pain, sorrow, of fear, anxiety and, of course, our hopes along with the things that make up the joys in life. And I don't think there is going to any personal account of our wrong-doings either -- and very little to fear for ourselves in that sense. But it is for those it leaves behind, that the pain and loss continues to be felt. And our wrong-doings, and whatever we may have done right, leaves its more lasting impact through those left behind too.

    In a sense, whether you are religious or secular, the exaggerated sense that life is all about us, and how it impacts us personally, is something I reject. Whether we like it or not, we are like the smallest of organisms in a vast universe of things, some of which we know about, and more that we don't. In fact, in some ways, we are just like this virus that we are fighting now. A living organism coded with certain characteristics which define much of our behavior. Playing our role in the larger evolution of things.

    The sooner we accept our fate in that sense, and not imagine that anything in this material world is ever lasting or otherwise of real significance and meaning, the sooner we might take solace in knowing that we are ultimately our own judge. And as we grow older, and become less self-centered hopefully, what we often judge ourselves the most is by how well or poorly we have done in relation to those tasks we were given to complete. And in relation to those who we have been responsible to. Only in one sense that is not the case to me: how poorly or well we have done in relation to the one thing that is not temporal; that lasts even when we are gone: in advancing the truth. And striking down falsehoods along the way.
     
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    Oops. Backwards.
    I was using covidtracking.
    Does this look better? I shouldn't do this at this time of night. :)
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    The percentage adhering to self-isolation. IE only leaving the house once a week (at most) for groceries, doing it quickly, and immediately returning home. The figure was actually 52% for NYC, and that's apparently the highest rate of compliance in the country.

    This is why the virus is out of control in America.
     
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    So people are going to work sick. Nice.
     
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    Damn....another dead end for my little MMT crusade, since you think Jesus will take care of everything….
     
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    Unfortunately it was already widespread in the community when they locked down.
     
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    We all feel better after that.
     
  14. Iranian Monitor

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    The debate, to open up, how to open up, and not, is also waging in different countries, each in their own way. This is the story from Iran as presented by Reuters. With me quoting from it, those parts which help tell the real story and leaving out that which I feel is being said mainly to encourage a monopoly on who you should trust and listen to when such stories are told.

    https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-iran/business-as-usual-in-iran-as-malls-bazaars-reopen-amid-coronavirus-idUSKBN2221SY
    Business as usual in Iran as malls, bazaars reopen amid coronavirus
     
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    That’s an absurd and ridiculous metric. Where did that come from ???

    What is the standard used to claim that the virus is out of control.

    The US is opening up the economy. That’s a very good thing.
     
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    Public transport is a huge problem. That should be the first thing to shut down, and the last to re-open.
     
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    So it’s a waste of time to put 60 year old people on ventilators. That’s called rationing and is an integral part of the way socialized medicine keeps spending down to a level that is half what US consumers spend on healthcare per capita.
     
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    It's come from detailed US stats.

    Out of control means continued community transmission .. obviously. If it was restricted to incoming travellers, it would be controllable (via compulsory quarantine).

    It's a very bad thing, to open up even partially. We're not even doing that here, and we've had maybe 30 cases in the entire country (nil deaths) in the past 24 hours. We won't open up until it's down to a reliable pattern of no new cases for a good number of days.
     
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    Going out of the house once a week is ridiculous. Where did that moronic standard come from ???

    In the US the case curve has been flattened. The healthcare system was not overwhelmed. It’s time to go back to work using the gated 3 phase plan.

    The condition of no new cases for days is absurd. Where does that come from ???
     
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    Check out this project from Carnegie and Facebook. It attempts to use survey data from Facebook users who are expressing Covid-19 like symptoms to create an estimate of the number of people with the virus in your immediate area.

    The map is interactive.

    https://covid-survey.dataforgood.fb.com/
     
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    True, but not practical, for those places where workers in the businesses that open rely on public transportation to get to work.

    In Iran, after many years of public campaigns to encourage people not to use their personal vehicles for transport (mainly because of concerns about pollution and not as much for energy conservation), now the government is pushing the opposite message: avoid public transport and take your cars to go about your business. The problem is that many of the working class poor in Iran often don't have their own cars and rely on public transport. And they are the ones which need to get to work the most, not having the savings and means to take care of the necessities of life simply sitting at home. On the other hand, many of the more affluent, 'chic', 'hip', Iranians wouldn't be found dead riding the bus, or even metro, even without this virus.

    For Iran, we have either already found some protection by some degrees of 'herd immunity', and can begin to rely on warming weather as a friend, or we are going to be in huge trouble. But being under severe sanctions, Iran doesn't have the resources to simply throw money around to allow people to stay home.. Otherwise, I doubt the 'smart distancing' the government is now promoting is being observed -- or is something that could even be observed even if people wanted to.

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    The pictures above were from a few days ago, even before the restrictions had been further relaxed.

    The picture below shows the mainly working class areas just outside of the city which need to lineup to commute to the city to go to work.
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    What I have noticed from these pictures is more and more people no longer even using face masks in public. That is in stark contrast to what we had seen until now.
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    I presume Iran's borders will be more or less closed, with little air traffic from outside the country.
    It will be an interesting case study of early release from lock-down.
     
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    I don't think that is entirely true. There are many flights to and from the country still.
    https://www.skyscanner.ca/flights/a...am-khomeini-international-arrivals-departures
    Imam Khomeini International (IKA) Arrivals and Departures
    While being a guinea pig of sorts isn't exactly what many would volunteer for, I agree.
     
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    Would you feel the same way if you were only in your 20's?
     
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    It matters a great deal if you are one of those are injured and have to spend the rest of your life damaged by this virus.
     

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