Let's chat about the atheist religion II

Lets not argue when we agree on the important points, I lack a position on gods, just like you!

 

you already attempted to litigate for the atheists disbelief in God. Stop the pretense.

agnostics do not say such things

 

Yes dear, whatever you say dear! Thanks for playing!

 

Im glad you had fun, toodle loo hunny pie.

 

I've noticed some of the issues you mention, but I wouldn't say that atheists in general are pushing a predominantly anti-Christian narrative. The anti-Christian narrative is being aggressively pushed by parts of the left for reasons related more to political ideology and goals than some atheist vs theist dichotomy.

Trying to prove to atheists that your religion is worth more than others isn't the right way to trigger empathy for Christians. Hasty generalizations being common on both the religious and non-religious sides of the aisle (see your own generalization about all atheists being secular humanists, for instance), your arguments may be perceived as Christian bigotry and hurt your cause more.

Muslims are being taken to task by atheists at least as often as Christians, don't you worry. I've seen plenty, and participated in some of those debates.

 

I hate multi-quotes and this one is wrong on so many levels.

1 - This is not a debate forum. Anyone that believes that is an idiot. You can tell them I said so. Debates have subjects, then participants and then the debate is moderated so that when rules are broken (logical fallacies introduced, name calling takes place, etc.) the debate ends and a winner declared. Secondary to that, when you stop to introduce yourself, that is hardly cause for debate about atheism. So, the atheist lost that "debate" before it started

2 - "Prominent atheists" are not the subject matter of this thread. Your reading comprehension is off a bit. We're talking about discussion boards

3 - I agree that you don't know what I'm talking about, so the next time an atheist denies that atheists are secular humanists, I will try to remember your board name and let you know what thread it's in or what board it's on

4 - Again, there is nothing here that leads me to believe this is a debate forum

5 - This is about the only point you genuinely make - it's when you say that atheists "deconverted from Christianity." So, their real issue is with Christianity and maybe most of their problem may lie in the interpretations they were fed, not Christianity at all. But, no, if you get outside your media atheists and stick to the boards, you will find that atheists - even on this board - don't start threads about Judaism, Islam, etc. It's just anti-Christianity trolling and baiting.

 

What will you have me consider about atheists, Christians and the "Holocaust?" What will I be looking for?

 

I don't know understand what you're aiming at me. In my introduction here (where you check in and say Hi), the atheists were eager to start a debate in THAT forum when I told them that I don't agree with them, but I would fight to the death to defend their Right to their unbelief. I don't try to convert them and after a few threads of the same crap, over and over and over again, there are no longer any facts or opinions that Christians and atheists can use to "prove" their point. Atheists cannot get something from nothing and Christians have to rely on faith and how science confirms the Bible to sustain their belief. So, both sides are about equal there. I don't bother with any pretend debate as the subject matter has been fully debated and I cannot reinvent the wheel. I'm stating the obvious as it pertains to Christians and Distraff admits the reason that atheists concentrate their efforts against Christians.

 

Atheist simply lack a position on gods, there are those who think the evidence suggests the universe came from nothing and others who do not, many just say, "I do not know"

Science does not confirm the Bible, sorry that is just a fact, stick with faith.

 

I never believe nor disbelieve in God. You?

 

1 - This is not a formal debate forum, but it is an informal debate and discussion forum. There may not be a good reason to debate atheism, but people often debate things for the joys of debate alone. If you don't like debate for its own sake, maybe (informal) debate forums aren't for you.

2 - Prominent atheists are an indicator of the views of atheists in general, and how the public views atheists. The exchange between Sam Harris and Ben Affleck made news and really publicized how critical atheists are of Islam in stark contract to mainstream liberals. I have heard plenty of atheists critique Islam on debate forums. Don't believe me? Start a thread about Islam and just watch the atheists provide their opinion.

Atheists on forums don't start threads about Islam very often because there aren't very many Muslims on these forums, so there just isn't very much interesting debate. But I still see atheists attack Islam on debate forums. Next time you see an anti-Islam thread, ask the individual posts who are attacking Islam what their religious views are and you will find some are atheists.

3 - I'm an atheist and I'm a proud humanist. I know many more atheists who are proud secular humanists. Atheists tend to be left-leaning and leftists tend to be very humanist. There are individuals who are different but in my exerience most of the atheists I know are proud humanists.

5 - Some atheist don't understand Christianity, but some atheists understand Christianity very well. It depends on the person.

 

and you think you are an atheist lol I abstained from taking either position.

 

Do you agree with me and neither believe nor disbelieve?

 

no, you claim to be an atheist but in fact you are agnostic.

 

I don't believe you. If I was agnostic then we'd agree that we never believe nor disbelieve in God.

 

So people who say there is no God are not atheists. Right?

 

The phrase "neither believe nor disbelieve" is a very simple figurative explanation to help those with little to no philosophical experience sort out the actual standing of an agnostic so they do not misrepresent an agnostics abstention into something it is not, such as claiming the agnostic is either an atheist or theist, when they in fact are neither. Why do you ask?

 

Certainly not, I say there is no God( the capitalisation normally indicates the christian God) however I have no position on gods in general.

 

Psychologists would diagnose that to be a mental disorder known as cognitive dissonance.

 

Let me guess, you have no position on Aliens in general so you take no position on whether ET in the film was real?

 

Sorry I dont know anything about ET other than the film is real.

I do not take a purely speculative position based on faith or confirmation bias as neoatheists have done.

 

Let me help you out, the ET in the film was not an alien he was built on earth, now I no that the ET in the film was not real but I have no position on whether Aliens are real, why would that lead to Cognitive Dissonance?

 

You are painting atheists with a very broad brush. Atheists would never do that to the religious.

 

Add Dissociative Disorder to that as well.

 

Well, I believe that there are only three possible positions: Believe, Disbelieve, or don't know.