A 25-year-old black man was shot dead in Georgia while jogging, prompting online protests labeling t

And if they do not? If the grand jury refuses to indite, or the actual jury returns a not guilty verdict, what then? Will their be silence on the part of those who believe such? Or will they continue screaming and hollering because they have already made their own conclusion and refuse to consider the possibility that they are wrong in their beliefs?

 

This is not what you said before. I already knew this and explained it to you.

That's the only time police are allowed to use deadly force as well.

 

Probable cause? What probable cause?

 

Asking is not force. Repeatedly putting your truck in someone's path to stop them is force. So they weren't asking.

 

They saw him walking around a new construction site that didn't belong to them.

 

Well they killed the only person who could dispute their story now didn’t they?

 

Obviously you haven't looked at the law in Georgia.

2010 Georgia Code
TITLE 17 - CRIMINAL PROCEDURE
CHAPTER 4 - ARREST OF PERSONS
ARTICLE 4 - ARREST BY PRIVATE PERSONS
§ 17-4-60 - Grounds for arrest
O.C.G.A. 17-4-60 (2010)
17-4-60. Grounds for arrest


A private person may arrest an offender if the offense is committed in his presence or within his immediate knowledge. If the offense is a felony and the offender is escaping or attempting to escape, a private person may arrest him upon reasonable and probable grounds of suspicion.

These 2 racist need to rot in jail.

 

Thank you for that clear, on point explanation of this case. I'm glad we have an attorney here.

 

After watching the video it's clear the kid would be alive if he hadn't made straight for the guy with the shotgun and started beating him up. That's what got him shot. It's completely insane. Those guys are going to spend some time in jail for sure, but I doubt very much that it will be for murder.

 

black men have the right to defend themselves against armed redneck thugs

 

civilians do not get to use "probable cause". Only police can.

Civilians have to have actually seen the crime being committed or KNOW that the specific individual is wanted for a serious crime.

 

Go read the DA's report. Travis says he recognized him as a person he had seen recently and when he saw him the person put his hands into his waist like he had a gun. It was why when Arbery ran by them he said hey that's the guy I saw and they called the police and then went to get him to stop and talk to them. They weren't simply out as some assert to find some black guy to kill that day.

 

Go read the Georgia law and the DA's report.

 

the law says this is NOT enough to justify a civilian making an arrest.

especially armed.

 

Georgia's citizen's arrest law requires that the offender must have committed a crime in the presence of another person, or that person must have "immediate knowledge" of a crime that has taken place by the perpetrator.

https://www.gpbnews.org/post/breaki...arrest-law-after-ahmaud-arbery-fatal-shooting

 

As I have said, this is going to be a tough case for a jury and hope the investigation can turn up some more definitive evidence either way. What I don't do is convict these guys before it even goes to a grand jury and when there is no evidence of the outlandish assertions being made.

 

I've watched it several times.

 

The jogger was not being accused of a felony.

therefore the stop was not legal.

 

Thanks for proving my point. And I see you have already prejudged the GJ and any forth coming trial rather than waiting for the full investigation to complete and a trial engaged. You've already declared the two guys guily. No point in going further. If the matter is not resolved as you want it to regardless of any evidence and will simply call everyone racist, no need to discuss it further.

 

Sir, that’s not probable cause at all. But to be clear citizens arrest you actually have to see the crime being committed.

They were the aggressors in this incident and the victim was defending himself. Either way their actions resulted in death. I would expect the family should bankrupt that family.

 

I'm seriously following the evidence and citing the evidence in light of the law and not making things up like they were kidnapping him or Travis simply raised his shotgun and pointed it at Aubery and shot him or that they were just out to kill a black guy that day and Aubery was picked at random and I'm not prejudging the case before it even gets to a GJ.

 

Geogia allows citizens to make an arrest if they have probably cause that the person committed a felony

 

Georgia law says they have to witness the crime.


Citizen's Arrests

As a private citizen, you have no authority to arrest anyone with a warrant. Without a warrant, you may arrest anyone who commits a mis-demeanor or a felony in your presence or with your immediate knowledge. A citizen's arrest occurs when a citizen prevents a suspect from leaving a scene. Citizen's arrest most often happens in cases like shoplifting, when the store's manager detains the suspected offender. However, as the following example shows, the manager or employee cannot make such an arrest in every case.

 

or they have probable cause that a felony was committed by the person.

 

Wrong