So, I got my first unemployment voucher.

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  1. Hoosier8

    Hoosier8 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    All salaried employees had to take an involuntary 10 days of their choice furlough. I start back tomorrow.
     
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    Hoosier8 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Most are enemployed due to the shutdown and can go back to work when allowed by the police state.
     
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    LOL, flattening the curve turned into stay closed until liberals feel safe.
     
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    Are you still working?

    If not...you're getting unemployment
     
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    Small loans (with easy repayment terms) are covering rent,utilities and most bills). My employees are on unemployment.

    It can withstand waiting a few more weeks...and so can almost any other small business
     
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    Flattening the curve looks a lot different from what you folks claim it is

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    It means fewer cases and fewer deaths...overall...and allows for testing and contact tracing to tamp down outbreaks
     
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    What we have done is something in the middle. That "flattened curve" is higher than that chart by quite a bit and has PLATEAUED
     
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    Weeks? Just a few more weeks?

    But what if the Democrats want you to wait months and months more for a COVID cure? Will you be feeling the real pain then, or will you still be poo pooing lockdown protests as merely selfish people wanting haircuts or Thurston Howell III sad about not being able to put his yacht in the water?

    Plenty of small, and big, businesses have already crumbled under the strain, so your flippant attitude about how easily-survivable the current situation is seems a bit misinformed and/or delusional.
     
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    Wait...you can't wait a few more weeks (sensibly) because you don't want to wait a few more months that no one has proposed?

    That makes sense to you?

    What happens if this opening turns out to be a huge mistake and we end up with death tolls across the country like NYC had?

    You wanna play "what if"?

    Well "what if" THAT happens...you got nothing?

    Yea...
     
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    It's NOT "flippant" and no one is saying it's easy. It IS the sensible thing to do
     
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    A commie Republican made me paint my house the official color scheme, which can include dark purple trim but not dark purple house; you do realize some of us joking, right?

    "We reject all efforts to denigrate the religious beliefs of [those that believe all Democrats are commies]." (Obama)
     
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    So dismissing people who want to get back to work and save themselves from financial ruin as merely selfish fools who want haircuts isn't "flippant?"

    Sorry, that's beyond flippant. That's Nancy Pelosi with a freezer stuffed full of gourmet ice cream flippant.

    You really should apologize for your disgusting "haircuts" attitude, when you know damned well these lockdowns are far from easy on people.
     
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    Hard to figure out in what world some posters are living. I have many small business owner friends that got nothing from the government. My son is CFO of a multi-billion dollar corporation that got nothing from the government. There are signs on thousands of restaurants and other small businesses all over America saying they have closed permanently.
    People that have no idea as to what are going to be the long term effects of shutting down the economy. but yet say they are afraid to put their own boat in the water for fear of catching the Chinese virus and we should have a nationwide lockdown until their latest pile of science BS which has now arbitrarily moved it to the end of July, really baffle me.

    Fortunately, their paranoia is being totally ignored by the vast majority of Americans who are tired of being told what to do by governors' "models" that have never been even close to accurate and are now increasingly telling them, **** you my shop is now open for business.
     
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    The other side of the coin is that quite a few people have received nothing at all.
     
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    I heard of brewery down here in Florida, over near Ybor city, that was making a kind of sanitizer.
    If you keep your employees safe, no problem. I just kind of worry it isn't going away, and maybe something that we have to deal with using proper gear and cleanliness maybe past September.
     
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    Nah. It's easier to just relax in Uncle Sugar's hammock. Netflix and chill, my dude. It's the Democrat way.
     
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    Why would you have to use proper gear for a mortality rate of 0.05% based on infection rate.
     
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    There are "no jobs" because the government has forced businesses to close. End the damn shutdown.


    The government has shutdown the jobs.


    I agree 100%.


    Bingo.


    The end of July, I believe. That's a bonus of $2400 just for the month of July, for people to NOT work.


    It's the ultimate combination of ignorance and selfishness.
     
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    Sweden had no shutdown but is seeing a 7% economic contraction just like its neighbors. This is because people will voluntarily social distance and this will hurt business almost as badly. Its cute that you think all the unemployed will magically get all their jobs back when the crisis is over in a month or two. Very funny. Its actually going to take a decade.
     
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    How exactly do you figure 0.05% with "stay at home" orders having an effect on numbers?
    Wear the freaking mask, stop trying to kill Trump voters.
     
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    I know it's fun for some conservatives to pretend that if only businesses had stayed open then everything would be OK, but
    the reality is that man people would have stayed home anyway. The reality is what is going on in Brazil right now, they refused to shut down and as of today, they passed Italy in the number of infected people, and it's still in an upward trend - and
    they are starting to shut down.

    The reality is that there may have been no great answer to this disease and until the long term impact on survivors is
    studied (blood clots and liver damage) and some of the unknowns are answered (is it seasonal) that people aren't
    going to be rushing back to businesses even they do reopen.

    We will also be able to see if one approach is a little better than other for the future.
    Does North Korea, Vietnam, and New Zealand (hard shut downs early on) come through the virus better than Sweden and
    Brazil (no shut down). We won't know for several months, but it will be good to see.
     
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    No, I am 10 years retired, became a part time worker, and get no unemployment. I am just one of the millions of Americans in this position. Fortunately, over 46 years of employment I have accumulated more than I need. I am lucky, millions are not.
    You are really uninformed as to what is going on in the world with respect to the economics involved in this lockdown. Some appear to be so wrapped in fear they are completely lost as to what is really happening, it has become comical.
     
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    To add a point. This example explains more, this person get paid to stay home, and hes handy so he does a house project which he normally would hire out. So the government freebie means that additional economic activity is lost by him not hiring a kitchen guy.
     
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