Corona Virus Update

You're misinformed.

 

Americans hoping for the next round of coronavirus relief will probably be waiting for weeks — if not much longer.
hough House Democrats on Friday passed a sweeping, $3 trillion stimulus bill built around aid for local governments and a fresh batch of direct payments to the public, the Republican Senate majority has no immediate plans to produce an alternative. Instead, senators are expected to consider a handful of lifetime judicial appointments this week and then head home for the Memorial Day recess.
There’s basically zero bipartisan talk among congressional leaders right now in Washington about what to do next. Speaker Nancy Pelosi and Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell have no plans to hash out their differences, primarily because they don’t even agree on whether a bill is needed immediately. President Donald Trump is noncommittal.
While McConnell and many of his members have conceded that another bill is likely at some point, the Kentucky Republican says he doesn’t yet feel the “urgency” to spend more money after Congress has delivered nearly $3 trillion in aid already. Senate Republicans see the next exhaustion of the Paycheck Protection Program, perhaps in late May or June, as a potential impetus for putting forward their own vision.
“In terms of what the timing would look like, I suspect that doesn’t happen until sometime after Memorial Day,” said Senate Majority Whip John Thune (R-S.D.).
To be continued

 

Here is part 2
Many on Capitol Hill say that a fifth coronavirus response measure is inevitable given an unemployment rate of nearly 15 percent and no sign of an economic recovery. But at the moment, it’s hard to see how one would come together.
Trump is still pushing a payroll tax cut that Democrats and many Republicans dislike. The GOP is internally divided over how much to help states and localities. And progressives say Democratic leaders should go even bigger than the ibill just passed the House.
“I’d put the chance of another bill right now at way less than 50 percent for the foreseeable future. I mean I hear all this talk that, ‘Well, we’ll get back together and something will get worked out in June,’” said Sen. John Kennedy (R-La.).
He said he and his colleagues are frustrated by two months of top-down legislating by congressional leaders and take-it-or-leave-it propositions: “People have had enough … the cattle are starting to say ‘no.’”
McConnell has savaged Pelosi's bill but repeatedly declined to give a timeline on when the next coronavirus legislation will be considered by the Senate. In the meantime, Democrats will continue to cast Republicans as dragging their feet amid an unprecedented health and economic crisis.
“The pressure will grow,” said Sen. Tim Kaine (D-Va.).

 

Low testosterone at greater risk of dying from coronavirus: study.

Red States as a group have much much lower death rates from COVID than Blue States.

And even in Red States, the Blue Areas, are much harder hit than the rest of the state.

“Democrat-dominated areas of Florida have high COVID-19 infection rates, and Republican-leaning Naples can’t re-open its beaches without being overrun by people trying to escape from Miami.”

“We were told by Democrats like Uhlfelder that DeSantis’s decision would certainly result in thousands of COVID-19 deaths, but guess what? It hasn’t happened. Three weeks ago, during the week of April 18-24, Florida reported an average of 825.7 new cornavirus daily, and 45.7 deaths daily. For the week of May 9-15, the average daily number of new cases was 644.7 — a 22% reduction — and the average daily number of COVID-19 deaths was 31.7, a reduction of 31%. Florida’s per-capita death rate from the virus is still 94% lower than New York’s.”​

94% lower, is a LOT lower.

 

Case 1.....Hospital will receive $13,000 for a PRESUMED Covid19 admission. After two days of observation, the patient was diagnosed with the common flu. In an effort to retain said $13,000, the patient was released from the hospital as a CURED Covid19 outpatient.

Believe it or not

Case 2.....Hospital will receive $13,000 for a PRESUMED Covid19 admission. After two days of observation, the STILL PRESUMED Covid19 patient was transferred to an ICU, (Hospital will now receive $39,000). After 5 days on a ventilator, the STILL PRESUMED Covid19 patient died of several complications.

NOTE: Since being admitted, Nurses had not time to test the patient for Covid19.

In an effort to retain said $13,000/$39,000, the doctor was administratively pressured to use this death stamp;



Believe it or not

 

Sad but true.

 

Great response. Good solid, science-based explanation.

 

Sad, but IMO, RARELY true.

There might have been a few hundred cases where an UNTESTED individual was rushed to the hospital, was gasping for air, and within 24 hours of being admitted, PRESUMABLY died of Covid19, BUT CERTAINLY NOT THOUSANDS OF CASES.

 

Would Republicans be happy if the CDC would estimate Covid19 deaths as per their common flu LOWER/UPPER Limits?

Example;

2020 Estimated Covid19 deaths; 130,000

Lower/Upper limit estimates; Between 110,000 and 150,000

Response; "Huuuuummmm, I don't like said lower limit at 110,000.....STILL NOT A GOOD RE-ELECTION death toll".............."Perhaps we should substract my brother's death; although he tested positive, and ended up in an ICU, he died of kidney and liver failure, however, the Doctor classified his death as Covid19.

 

QUOTE; Dr Birx said the CDC was inflating th numbers by 25 percent.


She may be right,

90,000 deaths MINUS 25% = 67,500 deaths

HOWEVER,

67,500 deaths + the following undercounted 25% = 90,000 deaths


N.J. coronavirus deaths could be undercounted by nearly 25%, new data suggests
https://www.nj.com/coronavirus/2020...ercounted-by-nearly-25-new-data-suggests.html

Coronavirus: California nursing home deaths undercounted? It’s possible, and disturbing, experts say
“I think it could be much higher,” Pat McGinnis, executive director of California Advocates for Nursing Home Reform, said Thursday of the health department statistics. “There has been a lack of transparency from the beginning.”
https://www.mercurynews.com/2020/05...nted-its-possible-and-disturbing-experts-say/

New York admits purposely undercounting nursing home deaths after changing reporting rules
"The state of New York omitted coronavirus deaths from nursing homes and adult care facilities after it was revealed that a significant amount of individuals were dying from the virus in those types of residences"......
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/...ng-home-deaths-after-changing-reporting-rules

Florida medical examiners were releasing coronavirus death ...
https://www.tampabay.com/news/health/2020/04/29/florida-medical...
But earlier this month, after the Tampa Bay Times reported that the medical examiners’ death count was 10 percent higher than the figure released by the Florida Department of Health, state ...

At-home COVID-19 deaths may be significantly undercounted ...
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-fdny-idUSKBN21P3KF
2020-04-08 · The daily tally of New York City residents who died at home with coronavirus-like symptoms exploded from 45 on March 20 to 241 on April 5, …

Texas Health Officials Undercount COVID-19 Cases by ...
https://www.texasobserver.org/covid-19-texas-undercount-prisoners
And directly south in Houston County, the Texas Department of State Health Services (DSHS) reported only nine COVID-19 cases, yet 33 prisoners incarcerated in the county’s Eastham Unit currently ...

 

Come'on man. Do your homework. For starters read the CDC guidelines.

 

Citation, please.

 

Why do you suppose that is, and what do you think Trump can do about it?

 

Just How Inflated Are Coronavirus Death Counts, Exactly?
By Tyler O'Neil, May 15, 2020

Last month, New York funeral home directors blew the whistle about inflated coronavirus death numbers. Death certificates mark “COVID-19” as the cause of death even when the deceased hadn’t tested positive for coronavirus, much less actually died of the virus. This week, a San Diego county supervisor suggested the numbers are even more inflated.

“We’ve unfortunately had six pure, solely coronavirus deaths — six out of 3.3 million people,” County Supervisor Jim Desmond said on the radio show Armstrong & Getty Extra Large Interviews., The San Diego Union-Tribune reported. San Diego County had reported roughly 190 deaths at the time — the current number is 200.

Desmond went on to criticize California’s lockdown. “I mean, what number are we trying to get to with those odds. I mean, it’s incredible. We want to be safe, and we can do it, but unfortunately, it’s more about control than getting the economy going again and keeping people safe,” he said.

In short, Desmond was suggesting that while COVID-19 may have contributed to the 190 deaths, most of those deaths were due in part to previous, unrelated health concerns.

Indeed, the disease has proven most deadly for people with underlying health conditions, so it stands to reason that “pure, solely coronavirus deaths” would be the minority — perhaps even just 3.2 percent of the total recorded deaths, as Desmond suggested.

As of Friday afternoon, there have been 87,218 deaths attributed to COVID-19 in the U.S. If Desmond’s claim is accurate and if that 3.2 percent rate holds across the country, and discounting the death certificate inflation, that would mean there are only 2,891 “pure, solely coronavirus deaths” in the U.S...

Since COVID-19 robs an average of 12 years of life from its victims, the lockdowns could save no more than 7.4 million years of life. Meanwhile, the anxiety and stress of the pandemic will cost 42.9 million Americans an average of 1.3 years of life, thus destroying 55.7 million years of life.

The coronavirus anxiety and stress cost at least 7.5 times more in terms of years of life than the lockdowns could possibly save, according to Just Facts.

If Jim Desmond is correct about the low rate of “pure, solely coronavirus deaths,” then COVID-19 may take even fewer years of life from its victims, thus bolstering the case against the lockdowns even further.



https://pjmedia.com/news-and-politi...-are-coronavirus-death-counts-exactly-n394897

 

LOL! What a stupid fcking claim. Lose the crackpots and stick with the scientists.

 

Dr. Wittkowski received his PhD in computer science from the University of Stuttgart and his ScD (Habilitation) in Medical Biometry from the Eberhard-Karls-University Tuüingen, both Germany. He worked for 15 years with Klaus Dietz, a leading epidemiologist who coined the term “reproduction number”, on the Epidemiology of HIV before heading for 20 years the Department of Biostatistics, Epidemiology, and Research Design at The Rockefeller University, New York. Dr. Wittkowski is currently the CEO of ASDERA LLC, a company discovering novel treatments for complex diseases from data of genome-wide association studies.

His work has been widely cited in the technical/medical literature. So try to understand his frustration with everything going on around him. A lifetime of work toward understanding diseases and their spread, and he has to watch all this unfold in the most brutal way that contradicts everything he knows and has tried to teach.

At the last moments of this interview below (full transcript) he says the following:

With all respiratory diseases, the only thing that stops the disease is herd immunity. About 80% of the people need to have had contact with the virus, and the majority of them won’t even have recognized that they were infected, or they had very, very mild symptoms, especially if they are children. So, it’s very important to keep the schools open and kids mingling to spread the virus to get herd immunity as fast as possible, and then the elderly people, who should be separated, and the nursing homes should be closed during that time, can come back and meet their children and grandchildren after about 4 weeks when the virus has been exterminated….

We are experiencing all sorts of counterproductive consequences of not well-thought-through policy….

Well, we will see maybe a total of fewer cases—that is possible. However, we will see more cases among the elderly, because we have prevented the school children from creating herd immunity. And so, in the end, we will see more death because the school children don’t die, it’s the elderly people who die, we will see more death because of this social distancing….

If we had herd immunity now, there couldn’t be a second wave in autumn. Herd immunity lasts for a couple of years, typically, and that’s why the last SARS epidemic we had in 2003, it lasted 15 years for enough people to become susceptible again so that a new epidemic could spread of a related virus. Because typically, there is something that requires cross-immunity, so if you were exposed to one of the SARS viruses, you are less likely to fall ill with another SARS virus. So, if we had herd immunity, we wouldn’t have a second wave. However, if we are preventing herd immunity from developing, it is almost guaranteed that we have a second wave as soon as either we stop the social distancing or the climate changes with winter coming or something like that….

[Extreme reactions] cost the US taxpayer $2 trillion, in addition to everything else that it costs, but it also has severe consequences for our social life, and depression is definitely something that we will be researching. I can say for myself, walking through New York City right now is depressing….

We should be resisting, and we should, at least, hold our politicians responsible. We should have a discussion with our politicians. One thing we definitely need to do, and that would be safe and effective, is opening schools. Let the children spread the virus among themselves, which is a necessity to get herd immunity. That was probably one of the most destructive actions the government has done. We should focus on the elderly and separating them from the population where the virus is circulating. We should not prevent the virus from circulating among school children, which is the fastest way to create herd immunity….

And the final question and answer: “So, is there anything else you want to say about this that—what’s been aggravating you the most? Or what would you like people to know?”

I think people in the United States and maybe other countries as well are more docile than they should be. People should talk with their politicians, question them, ask them to explain, because if people don’t stand up to their rights, their rights will be forgotten. I’m Knut Wittkowski. I was at the Rockefeller University, I have been an epidemiologist for 35 years, and I have been modeling epidemics for 35 years. It’s a pleasure to have the ability to help people to understand, but it’s a struggle to get heard.

[This video was taken down by Youtube, but we are pleased to offer a copy here.]

https://www.aier.org/article/stand-up-for-your-rights-says-bio-statistican-knut-m-wittkowski/

 

But he is ignoring the trucks filled with rotting bodies in hospital parking lots.

No matter how much bs you post, it still isn't true.

 

Your guess is as good as mine at the time

They probably had a right to do what they did.

 

Actually, my guess is much, much better.
Low truck rates are due to a lack of freight - not just to/from DC, but all over the country; truck rates,. like anything else, are no higher than what the market will bear. When someone with freight posts a load on the internet, and all of their phone lines light up, the load goes to the trucker willing to take the least $ (all else being equal, of course).

Offsetting these lower rates, to some degree, is the lower price of diesel fuel, which is also driven by lack of demand.

And, don't worry
- At some point, the situation will reverse, and truckers will pick and choose whichever freight pays the moat
- High fuel prices aren't the burden people make it out to be as everyone has a fuel surcharge they add to their rates - a bigger FSC means more profit.

And there's nothing the federal government - especially the President - can do about it.

Absence of citation noted.

 

You say so.

 

It's my day job.

 

Here's something you need to look at:
President Donald Trump said Monday that he is taking a malaria drug to lessen symptoms should he get the new coronavirus, even though the drug is unproven for fighting COVID-19.
Trump told reporters he has been taking the drug, hydroxychloroquine, and a zinc supplement daily “for about a week and a half now.” Trump spent weeks pushing the drug as a potential cure for COVID-19 against the cautionary advice of many of his administration's top medical professionals. The drug has the potential to cause significant side effects in some patients and has not been shown to combat the new coronavirus.

 

It is? Tell me something I don't know.

 

You didn't know that.