New CDC Death Rate Estimate for COVID19 is .2%

Yes, we care about heart disease and people bitch and moan about nearly any attempt to limit the effects of that deadly - but not contagious - ailment.

 

I have provided you dozens of pieces of evidence in support of the theory that pandemic control measures work and that they worked in the US.

And yes. Bad years like the current one do happen.

Roughly once every 100 years unless you know of another global pandemic event that killed enough and was contagious enough to warrant an economic shutdown?

 

But those are not the real numbers, are they? You said that we should look at the real numbers.

 

A) 100,000 dead Americans in 10 weeks is hard to quantify as an over-reaction.

B) I still prefer the over to the under.

 

...so like 40% of America?

 

If you think there is no humility, then you simply are completely ignorant to the scientific discussion currently taking place in this country and across the world. The most common refrain from scientists and doctors at the moment is that we don't know. The estimates from 3 months ago that conservatives love to bash were filled with "we don't know, but here is our best guess based on the limited evidence and past cases we think might be similar." That is why, for early studies like the one that came out of Imperial College London, had enormous variance depending on public health decisions, how contagious the disease was, how deadly the disease was, etc. So their estimates ranged from something like 64k deaths up to the 2 million number that became so famous. That wasn't a failure of science or of humility, it was a failure of the media (2 million makes a much sexier headline) and of the science literacy of the overwhelming majority of the American people.

 

Well you think you did, but you've never supplied the control curve. And you've never supplied the type of data that real epidemiologists use to examine infection prevalence, serological data. So you're just whiffing in the dark. Carry on

 

You said it not me.

 

Scientific discussion?

What's been going on in this country is political manipulation.

Scientific discussions by whistleblowers like Judy Mikovits and others are CENSORED here in the Land of the Docile and Home of the Gullible.

 

I did tell you to never imply or suggest that I am not American or that I do not love my country.

Never do so.

 

Still can't back up your ****, can you?

 

The only deaths that matter now are COVID deaths. They are the gold medal winners of the death Olympics. All other deaths pale in comparison.

 

cancer isn't a contageious disease.

nor is heart disease, liver disease or drowning

 

ok, so 350 million people, we need 600,000 more deaths to reach a rate of .2 of 1%

since we have no way of knowing how mnay have or have had covid, death rates cannot be accurately calculated

 

Is 15,500 below the magic number of deaths that require us to shut down society?

So where are all your posts and threads talking about influenza deaths last year? And where was the gigantic effort by Democrats to raise awareness of those deaths? I must have missed it.

So if we achieve some magical number of "unexpected" deaths, we have to shut down society? We have to post about the deaths nonstop? Is that the new organizing principle of American politics?

And what's "unexpected" about a virus killing people? That's been happening forever.

 

Sure they can we do it every year with flu deaths.

 

So what shook you out of your complacency? And how have your political principles changed since then? Do you now believe in safety above all else?

 

So what is the magic number of deaths that require us to shut down society indefinitely?

 

The vast majority of flu deaths occur over a three month period as well. So why is 60,000 deaths over three or four months acceptable but 100,000 deaths over the same time is not acceptable? Because the media and the government told you so?

 

But influenza is contagious. Yet you've never cared about those deaths enough to demand a forceful political response. I guess influenza deaths don't really matter to you.

 

The deaths from the Influenza are expected and predictable, plus we have antivirals and decades of data on Influenza. None of that existed at the start of Covid-19 and barely any of it exists now.

I don't give a **** about proving to you that I cared about Influenza deaths just like I don't expect you to prove that you care about Influenza deaths.

It is unexpected because Covid-19 is a NOVEL virus. Is that really so difficult to understand? We shut down society because it was the safest and most likely method of reducing the rampant death and destruction that comes from a NOVEL virus.

 

Because you are posting liberal dribble, claiming your were once a conservative does not add validity to that dribble.

 

It is amazing there are places letting criminals out of jail due to C19 and arresting people for wanting to make a honest living due to C19.

Yet the left seems to not only to be OK with that , they applaud it.

This entire things has really brought the mindless big govt nanny states fans out of the woodwork. No doubt they would line up for their microchip implant tomorrow to allow the govt to track them, you know for their "safety'.....

 

It's ****ing retarded. "We don't want an outbreak in the prison, so we'll release them to effect the population. Oh, wait a minute they're criminals too! Even better!"

We Citizens have been deprived of our liberty, our safety and our livelihoods in response to the virus and it's far more egregious than anything the Trump Administration's done. We cannot trust the Democratic Party with the executive branch and/or the Senate.

 

In the many cases, COVID is a contributing factor, and not a cause of death.

In many cases, COVID was just a present factor, and played no part in the death.

And yet, all those deaths have been, and will continue to be, counted as COVID deaths, for reasons that are not scientific, not medical, but wholly political.


Beating up the numbers: The loose definition and inflated tally of COVID-19 deaths

https://justthenews.com/politics-po...ed-colorado-change-how-it-reports-coronavirus

A male corpse was found in a Colorado park with a 0.55% alcohol level. That’s well above the lethal limit. The coroner declared cause of death as alcohol poisoning. But just as in those sardonic memes, the state’s Department of Public Health and Environment (DPHE) insisted on categorizing it as a COVID-19 death.