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Discussion in 'Political Opinions & Beliefs' started by HereWeGoAgain, Jun 4, 2020.

  1. God & Country

    God & Country Well-Known Member

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    This is the most defining case of Trump Derangement Syndrome I've ever seen. General Mattis has an axe to grind but not much else. American service men and woman are guardians of the Constitution not mouthpieces for warped political garbage. Trump has united enough people to put him in office and in spite of all the BS the left has thrown at him he will be re-elected. 2016 wasn't a fluke it was America waking up to an evil that can no longer be tolerated. Every Trump vote cast in 2016 will be cast for him again in November along with a lot more new voters who have had it with the left and the lies.
     
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  2. HereWeGoAgain

    HereWeGoAgain Banned

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    So the real question is, when you took your oath, were you just talking bs or not. Does your word mean anything or not.

    Was your oath about about patriotism and the Constitution, or cultism and rah rah flag waving?
     
  3. FreshAir

    FreshAir Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    you're right, Trump was elected to divide this country, the right wants another civil war, they think the Confederates could win this time

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    Nope. When the deplorables ensure that Trump wins again there will be more consequences, because as Obama said, elections have consequences. There will really be a house cleaning inside the beltway and MAGA will move forward much quicker.
     
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    FreshAir Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    you do know what 'deplorables' are right?

    hint, it's not the good people on the right

    the left has it's 'deplorables' too, lets keep the 'deplorables' of both sides from ruining this country
     
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    It's the good people of flyover country whom the left keeps trying to marginalize. Those like me who still wear a 2016 Basket of Deplorables T-shirt with great pride. We ain't changed.
     
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    FreshAir Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    all cops should do such training

    even taser training, see so many cops taz someone, then immediately ask them to do something when they can't cause they were just tazed... so what do the idiot cops do, taz them again
     
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    Well your president channeled Stalin and called Us media enemy of the people.
     
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    The Mainstream Mediocres are the enemy of the people.
     
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    He is the enemy.
     
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    HereWeGoAgain Banned

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    General Mattis clearly called trump a threat to the Constitution.

    As a threat to the Constitution, trump is an enemy of the US by definition.

     
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    ALL THAT IS AN OUTRIGHT LIE- and wrapped in distorted half-truths to sell hate and violence

    The people promoting that illusion are the same ones showing us right now what the nation would be like with the kind of government they would have, including "defunded police"-
    >>> MOB RULE BY VIOLENCE. <<<
    Guaranteed injustice at every turn- robbery, murder, arson- anything you can think of.

    Trump has never endorsed anything that is a violation of the constitution- but the democrats, the liberals, the progressives, the socialists- all have, and they all revel in it.
    THEY are the ones destroying everything America has stood for and has given to it's citizens.

    Trump has promoted a stronger nation since day one- the plan of the MAGA slogan. He has told people we have that duty to ourselves- and to the nation and the future. That's what the instigators hate; for they fear the people will support that, and power to the strength and quality of life to the people defeats the hate and division that is necessary for them to destroy the country. They seek to use you- they seek the weak, the dependent, the disgruntled, the people who think they are entitled, that think that justice means living off others and having no responsibility.

    WHO has been telling us that we are a crap nation- that we should all be ashamed of ourselves- that we are all racists. all prejudiced, all supramicists, all evil?
    That the very people who built the nation were evil exploiters, that our holidays celebrated abuse and privilege? It damn sure wasn't Trump.

    Trump is a temporary figure that cannot stay in office more than another 4 years. But the hate and evil that is now plotting to take over America and destroy it wants that hate to be permanent.

    The real abuse is in the people promoting the demise of the nation, the enslavement of all our people- and they don't give a damn about your race or your welfare or your life, any more than they cared about Floyd George, whose death was used as the bait to give the worst of us license to unleash the worst behavior any American has seen in their lifetimes.

    These people- those behind it, those doing it- are domestic terrorists. Those of us who have taken that oath to defend the constitution know they are the enemy of the nation, and if it becomes necessary for all these good men to do so- it will be defended, and it will have nothing to do with Trump.
     
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    https://www.businessinsider.com/james-stavridis-admiral-letter-trumps-generals-2019-1

    https://www.businessinsider.com/william-mcraven-against-trump-navy-seal-presidency-2019-10
     
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    Bunker Boy knows as much about the constitution as he knows about the book he held upside down = Zerro
     
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    nope, that is not what a deplorable is... deplorables are deplorable people, thus the name
     
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    oh I agree, if Trump gets 4 more years, there will be consequences for this country that could even destroy it
     
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    The MSM media has, by it's own choice, surrendered journalistic ethics and became a propaganda machine for the worst political actors of our time. I would say that DOES make them the enemy of a free people and society. Never in history has the media approach been to assume we are all idiots and can be told what to think- rather than report facts and let people think for themselves.

    ANY person who supports that is aiding and abetting the domestic terrorists that you now see acting openly on the street, setting fire to your cities in the name of "Justice".

    YOU know this is true- and you are letting these people USE YOU.
     
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    Surejust what Stalin said.
     
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    Almost every time Trump cultists cannot honestly and logically defend a criticism of their Cult Leader POTUS T they strike out and attack those of us who criticize. Are you not allowed to defend your cult leader using facts, honesty and logic? Do you not want to? Do you fear to reevaluate yourself because you may find that it is you who are being used?

    Do you not realize that Thomas Jefferson is who was the proponent of a free press whose duty is to report the truth and not be cowered by a government, politition, or a cult leader tyrant? Do you not care?
     
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    We of the military are one of the guardians of the Constitution and that includes the duty to challenge an unlawful order. Using the federal military without proper cause and endorsement of state governors or local officials would constitute an illegal order. When I returned from Vietnam I did not want to be put into the position to have to take the life of a fellow American. We in the military have a duty per the UCMJ to challenge an illegal order albeit the challenge must be on a solid base. Even retired Gen Mattis does knows that and even as a retired military man he is not only living by the spirit and letter of the UCMJ.

    If Gen. Mattis had an "axe to grind" he had a year and a half to have done that. He held his opinion because unlike Trump he is a true American patriot and not a criminal politician whose only objective is to stroke his own bruised ego and get re-elected.
     
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    FACTS? YOU don't have any. Show us where Trump has advocated or done anything unconstitutional. Show us where Trump has conspired with his party to fabricate huge frauds like the dossier. Show us where Trump or his staff has conspired to frame his opponents in the way that was done by the FBI under the Obama people.

    You can't because he hasn't.

    Free press- CANNOT BE AN IRRESPONSIBLE PRESS. If they become propaganda machines, THEY SHOULD BE CALLED OUT. They threaten the entire nation.

    And while you can't tell the difference in calling out a lie and using the power of his office to shut them down- those who feed us those lies continue to do so. They are free to abuse the privilege of free speech as well as the restrictions of law- and totally indifferent to the restrictions of journalistic ethics, of honor, of every obligation they have to the public. They feed you garbage- program you with it, and like a corrupt computer- you process garbage in and produce garbage out. YOU accept that, endorse that????
     
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    Horse pucky. Even Obama dumped Mattis. Trump gave him another chance, and found out Mattis came up short.

    IF you are in the military (and I was) YOU have a sworn obligation to both the constitution and to follow the orders of your superiors, including the commander in chief. It appears you forgot about that part, and decided that it only applies if you agree. If you are in the military- I would question whose military it is.
     
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    Logic??? There has been nothing logical about the left's 24/7/365 assault on Donald Trump at any time
     
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    Hyuuuuuuge!!!!!!!! Very sad on ABC, CBS this morning.

    Totally unexpectedly and to the consternation of the experts, unemployment drops to 13.3% and the economy adds 2.5 million JOBS!!!!!

    Archie Bell and the Drells reuinte to play do the Open Up!!!!!!!
     
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