Why do some Conservatives want the right to discriminate???

Discussion in 'Political Opinions & Beliefs' started by Ronstar, Jun 19, 2020.

  1. Ronstar

    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Jun 19, 2013
    Messages:
    93,457
    Likes Received:
    14,675
    Trophy Points:
    113
    most folks arent saying that.

    nice strawman, though. ;)
     
  2. TheImmortal

    TheImmortal Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 16, 2013
    Messages:
    11,882
    Likes Received:
    2,871
    Trophy Points:
    113
    So again. You believe that it should be acceptable to discriminate against the people that you think should be discriminated against based upon NOTHING more than the color of their skin.

    Do you understand what hypocrisy is?
     
    roorooroo and ToddWB like this.
  3. drluggit

    drluggit Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Nov 17, 2016
    Messages:
    31,103
    Likes Received:
    28,555
    Trophy Points:
    113
    LOL... Because, yes, it's exactly like that. It says a lot about the folks who populate BLMs these days. Thanks for pointing it out.
     
    ToddWB likes this.
  4. Ronstar

    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Jun 19, 2013
    Messages:
    93,457
    Likes Received:
    14,675
    Trophy Points:
    113
    affirmative action to address centuries of persecution and discrimination, is not a bad thing
    its ok to right a wrong.

    or do you also reject Holocaust reperations?
     
  5. DaveBN

    DaveBN Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Apr 24, 2018
    Messages:
    9,063
    Likes Received:
    4,876
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    Putting people into a position to compete with white candidates that may not have been looked at otherwise is not persecution of whites.
     
    Pants likes this.
  6. Ronstar

    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Jun 19, 2013
    Messages:
    93,457
    Likes Received:
    14,675
    Trophy Points:
    113
    now you're just lying about my comments.

    trying to fix a terrible wrong, is not discrimination.
     
  7. Collateral Damage

    Collateral Damage Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Oct 21, 2012
    Messages:
    10,535
    Likes Received:
    8,149
    Trophy Points:
    113
    So what happens if a particular person is hire over another? If they are identical in every way (highly unlikely) what happens if the person with light skin is hired over someone with dark skin?
     
    Last edited: Jun 19, 2020
  8. DaveBN

    DaveBN Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Apr 24, 2018
    Messages:
    9,063
    Likes Received:
    4,876
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    It says about as much about BLM as white supremacists and Neo-Nazis favoring the GOP.
     
    Last edited: Jun 19, 2020
  9. Dayton3

    Dayton3 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    May 3, 2009
    Messages:
    25,448
    Likes Received:
    6,734
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    Of course not. Where did you get the idea I would?
     
  10. Ronstar

    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Jun 19, 2013
    Messages:
    93,457
    Likes Received:
    14,675
    Trophy Points:
    113
    do you believe that a white person and a black person can be equally qualified for a job?
     
    DaveBN likes this.
  11. Ronstar

    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Jun 19, 2013
    Messages:
    93,457
    Likes Received:
    14,675
    Trophy Points:
    113
    sounds like you believe you should have the right to reject a qualified black job candidate, simply cause he is black.

    correct me if i am wrong.
     
    DaveBN likes this.
  12. DaveBN

    DaveBN Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Apr 24, 2018
    Messages:
    9,063
    Likes Received:
    4,876
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    Seems to me, in a world without hiring discrimination, there would be a near even split between the two candidates assuming they are both exactly as qualified. As that’s not the case there needs to be effort to even the playing field.

    People with ethnic or foreign sounding names on average have to send out 2.5 times as many applications than those with white sounding names to even get a callback.
     
    Last edited: Jun 19, 2020
  13. Collateral Damage

    Collateral Damage Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Oct 21, 2012
    Messages:
    10,535
    Likes Received:
    8,149
    Trophy Points:
    113
    You assume there was extreme and systemic discrimination. In those case where it can be proven, corrective measures were taken.

    Your phrase of 'righting a wrong', means what? Forcing businesses to hire a particular person? There are already laws that address discrimination. If those laws aren't working, will more laws suddenly work?

    We could get into the old adage of 'Thought Police', but unless discrimination can be proven, the idea of 'righting a wrong' sounds good on the surface, but holds no substance.
     
    ToddWB likes this.
  14. drluggit

    drluggit Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Nov 17, 2016
    Messages:
    31,103
    Likes Received:
    28,555
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Ah... the desperate spread approach.... If I see some at the next fund raiser, Ill be sure to ask them to leave... But, I'm sure I won't. I can just turn on the nightly news and see this behavior from the BLMs folks.
     
    ToddWB likes this.
  15. drluggit

    drluggit Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Nov 17, 2016
    Messages:
    31,103
    Likes Received:
    28,555
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Given that I have, personally, hired folks of every race, I vote yes. Now what? Basically undermines your entire premise...
     
    ToddWB likes this.
  16. DaveBN

    DaveBN Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Apr 24, 2018
    Messages:
    9,063
    Likes Received:
    4,876
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    I’m sure you won’t see them because they know their views are unpopular enough to stay quiet about it. They let their votes and dog whistles do the talking.
     
  17. Collateral Damage

    Collateral Damage Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Oct 21, 2012
    Messages:
    10,535
    Likes Received:
    8,149
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Having interviewed more than my share of people, there are more factors then the specifics of education, experience and background that go into selecting a candidate. Attitude is one, personal presentation another.

    Does that mean those with unusual names are being discriminated against? It's an assumption, unless proven. And if proven, corrective (and usually monetary) actions are taken.
     
  18. DaveBN

    DaveBN Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Apr 24, 2018
    Messages:
    9,063
    Likes Received:
    4,876
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    And if your actions represented the actions of all those who higher employees we wouldn’t see higher if disparities based on race, but we do, so yours don’t.
     
  19. drluggit

    drluggit Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Nov 17, 2016
    Messages:
    31,103
    Likes Received:
    28,555
    Trophy Points:
    113
    LOL.... you guys and your imaginary boogie men.... If you want to know who the real racists are, did by chance you see Nancy and Chucky wearing the Ashanti Royal neckwear with the leaders of the Black Congressional caucus??? LOL... Now that actually is racist.. But who's counting.
     
    ToddWB likes this.
  20. James Knapp

    James Knapp Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Oct 26, 2018
    Messages:
    888
    Likes Received:
    699
    Trophy Points:
    93
    Gender:
    Male
    Yeah but your suggestion is like asking the Zimbabwean's to pay money to the Jews. They weren't responsible, much like most of America.

    No one is equally qualified in anything.
     
    Last edited: Jun 19, 2020
    ToddWB likes this.
  21. drluggit

    drluggit Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Nov 17, 2016
    Messages:
    31,103
    Likes Received:
    28,555
    Trophy Points:
    113
    LOL.. At some point, you are going to realize just how vapid these comments of yours are, and one hopes be self aware enough to be embarrassed by them.
     
    ToddWB likes this.
  22. Ronstar

    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Jun 19, 2013
    Messages:
    93,457
    Likes Received:
    14,675
    Trophy Points:
    113
    says nobody
     
  23. Ronstar

    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Jun 19, 2013
    Messages:
    93,457
    Likes Received:
    14,675
    Trophy Points:
    113
    how about customers?

    do you believe you should have the right to reject a customer, just because he is black, or Gay, or Catholic?
     
  24. Right is the way

    Right is the way Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Oct 7, 2013
    Messages:
    3,214
    Likes Received:
    1,584
    Trophy Points:
    113
    But you are now harming people who have done no harm.
     
    ToddWB likes this.
  25. Ronstar

    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Jun 19, 2013
    Messages:
    93,457
    Likes Received:
    14,675
    Trophy Points:
    113
    i disagree.
     

Share This Page