Racism of the Gaps

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  1. doombug

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    I have asked and asked for proof of racism when racism has been claimed. So far no one has produced any. It is just assumed there is racism without proof.

    This is called Racism of the Gaps.

    You can see it in claims of racism where statistics show blacks in poverty, crime, and anything that negatively affects them. Well, it must be racism that is causing these things, right?

    How many times must I post that correlation does not equal causation?

    These issues will never be resolved as long as folks refuse to take an honest look at the situation. Racism of the gaps is a problem. It stands in the way of finding a solution.

    There are folks who profit from the existence of racism so they want to keep the gravy train on its tracks by any means necessary. There are politicians who use racism to get votes so they do not care about actually solving the problem. These folks are motivated to keep folks divided and are not interested in solving the issue or making things better. They benefit from the problem.

    So what is the answer? I say start by rejecting the dogma of the social justice warriors. These folks are full of crap.
     
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    Well of course racism doesn’t exist in every situation and no one should ever assume racism without proof. That being said, do you believe racism towards black people exists?
     
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    There is racism towards the blacks. But it is perpetuated by the blacks own behavior.
     
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    Wait....what...smfh. That is literally the dumbest thing I’ve ever heard. Congrats.
     
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    When they resist arrest at a rate eight times what whites do, when they kill each other at a rate seven times that whites kill each other, they are reinforcing the beliefs that already exist.
     
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    Racism has to do with how you view and treat people from another race. When they resist arrest and kill each other at higher than normal rates, that influences that view. Their own behavior influences that view.
     
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    Since 80% of blacks commit NO crimes, why would that be the case?
     
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    I have to admit, "Racism of the Gaps" seems like a brilliant concept. I don't know if you thought of lifting that from the "god of the gaps" argument, or you came across it from someone else, but it's a great example!
     
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    Thats not racism, that's being prejudice.
     
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    80% of blacks are good people. Probably a much higher percent than 80%. However, the acts of a few result in negative views of the majority.
     
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    Ergo if someone reacts in a racist way it is the fault of the people they are reacting against.
     
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    Call it whatever you want. It is a fact and it influences already negative views.
     
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    Let me give you an example. I have heard bad things about Purple People Eaters. I haven't actually seen them doing anything bad so I have reservations about whether they are that bad. However, if I see one of them eating a purple person or hear from a reliable source that they ate a purple person, it reinforces that belief. From that point forward, I will tend to view Purple People Eaters differently. Their behavior perpetuates an existing belief.
     
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    He clearly doesn’t get it
     
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    But some liberals that have gone off the rails claim every white person is racist and there's no use of denying it. I think racism against many races including caucasian exists but not to the degree that blacks have suffered in the past. Presently I think claims that it still exists as in the days of Jim Crow are wrong. The Jim Crow era was a time when racism was pervasive in America including in the polite states of the north, they just were better at covering it up. Much has changed since then,I think accusations and assumptions are skewed for political purposes. There is a pattern that exists that presents itself around elections and tense divisions between the parties. Large demonstrations, protests riots and the like seem to pop up like clock work and may seem random if you're not paying attention. I think the left has abused the race card such that it has lost it's meaning and seriously damaged the ability to gauge true racism.
     
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    If I failed to get it, you failed to explain it properly. They are all tied together.
     
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    There he goes putting the blame on others.
     
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    I have a co-worker friend from Canada that literally lived his whole life without encountering black people. There just weren't any where he grew up. We were discussing the riot situation a while back and he admitted that since moving to the USA (Georgia) he has developed a very poor opinion of black people. He said he understands racism now and struggles with it because the feels like he shouldn't have the feelings he has, but that based on his negative experiences and interactions he can't help it.
     
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    It's not that difficult to find evidence. Start with the comments on this site.
     
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    When people do not understand what I write or say, the first thing I do is try to determine whether is explained it properly.
     
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    All you’ve done with the statement above is RATIONALIZE bigotry and racism. You really don’t get it, do you?
     
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    But lets start at the beginning of this conversation. Regardless of where it started, if a group of people act in ways similar to ways people already believe could be true, it reinforces that opinion. If I hear someone is a drunk and I see them drunk, it reinforces my preconceived notions. It I hear someone is a reckless driver and I see them speeding and see them driving recklessly, it reinforces my preconceived opinion of that driver.
     
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    But that is the way it is. I don't condemn all blacks. However, the few bad apples make you suspicious when you hear about a cop killing a black man.

    But this is how you picture cops. A few bad cops makes you suspicious of all cops. How is that any different?

    The point I have made repeatedly, is that this problem is not just the cops. There needs to be some changes by both. Teaching blacks to respect cops rather than automatically assuming they are all bad, would go a long ways towards solving the problem.

    Again, how many deaths of young blacks are a result of Kaepernick's actions?
     
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    So by YOUR logic, its perfectly acceptable that blacks see all whites as racist then because their behavior perpetuates that existing belief?
     
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    You are claiming that White Nationalism and the KKK are myths?
     

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