Obamacare: Trump asks Supreme Court to invalidate Affordable Care Act

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  1. ptif219

    ptif219 Well-Known Member

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    Problem is medicaid is substandard healthcare
     
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    HAHAHA that is funny
     
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    What us sad is when McCain ran to end Obamacare and it ends up he is the reason we still have it
     
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    Good. It's a sh*t program.
     
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    even McCain knew Trump's plan sucked and harmed the people
     
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  6. Patricio Da Silva

    Patricio Da Silva Well-Known Member Donor

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    I think your numbers are wrong, my research indicates

    https://www.commonwealthfund.org/pu...alth-insurance-coverage-eight-years-after-aca
    • Today, 45 percent of U.S. adults ages 19 to 64 are inadequately insured — nearly the same as in 2010 — though important shifts have taken place.
    • Compared to 2010, many fewer adults are uninsured today, and the duration of coverage gaps people experience has shortened significantly.
    • Despite actions by the Trump administration and Congress to weaken the ACA, the adult uninsured rate was 12.4 percent in 2018 in this survey, statistically unchanged from the last time we fielded the survey in 2016.
    • More people who have coverage are underinsured now than in 2010, with the greatest increase occurring among those in employer plans.
    • People who are underinsured or spend any time uninsured report cost-related problems getting care and difficulty paying medical bills at higher rates than those with continuous, adequate coverage.
    • Federal and state governments could enact policies to extend the ACA’s health coverage gains and improve the cost protection provided by individual-market and employer plans.


    ACA isn't perfect, but before the ACA, it was much worse. I experienced it, and no president in my years on this earth helped me more, personally, that Obama did with the ACA. The uninsured rate would have been worse than it is now, it slowed the rate of increase. Premiums were faster under Bush than under Obama, so the ACA slowed the rate of increase. Not to mention that before the ACA, whether or not your insurance would cover you in the case of catastrophic health emergency was a crap shoot, this is what it was like before the ACA, health insurers employed whole departments whose only function was to figure out ways to deny claims.





    So, contrary to your opinion, it is a great improvement over the status quo, and Republicans wouldn't even be talking about health but for Obama doing something about it. Republicans won't even work with dems to make it better, they are sabotaging it so it won't work as good as it could.

    I remember when Rubio took the thing out of the ACA that was to reimburse corporations who would be hurting the first few years after it was established, given that the elderly would be signing up more than the young, and this greatly shrunk the pool of competitors available in the state exchanges, and this was further accelerated when repubs took away the mandate,
    https://www.healthinsurance.org/blog/2019/07/26/12-ways-the-gop-sabotaged-obamacare/
    Then AFTER Republicans SABOTAGED the ACA, they had the gall to complain about how poorly it was working.

    Despite all that....

    Americans have a much higher approval rating for the ACA than they do of Trump.

    Prices are going up as when the gov did QE three times during the last 20 years. QE is where the government prints currency to increase the money supply. The fed overdid it. That is the ultimate cause of inflation, and it was done by the fed, over which the president has not much control

    But, the correct action here is to get rid of republicans.
     
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    As is the case with just about everything run by Washington.
     
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    Talon Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Agreed.

    A+ for concision. :beer:
     
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    Oh yeah?

    My company provides Blue Cross Blue Shield to our employees.

    Please explain to me how those policies are subsidized with tax payer dollars.
     
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    It was passed unconstitutionally and bad law that hurt tens of millions. The Democrats refuse to fix THEIR bad healthcare law.
     
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    It's a Democrat bill and program why don't THEY fix it?
     
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    LOLOLOLOL....

    1. It's not that broken
    2. Grim Reaper
    3. PINO
     
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    under a Trump healthcare plan, Coronavirus could be considered a pre-existing condition that raises your health care costs for the rest of your life
     
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    why don't republicans let them?
     
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    They're trying you want to help? Now in stead of dodging why not answer......why don't the Democrats fix THEIR program?
     
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    Then why do they keep saying it needs to fixed they just won't do it?
     
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    They can't fix stupid and Obamacare is the dumbest program since cash for clunkers.
     
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    Obamacare is so good that people must be mandated to buy it.
    You people are all the same. Mandate what you like, and ban what you hate. And hate you do.
     
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    Why
    By providing health insurance company gets a tax break from the government.
     
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    I bought it and nobody mandated me to do so... It was the best health care I wanted to pay for....
     
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    Well there was a provision in the bill called the "Egoboy Exception Clause" where only you would never be mandated to buy Obamacare.:roll:
     
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    And you guys say Obama wasn't on the ball...

    Dude thought of everything...
     
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    He certainly did. Making healthcare more expensive was a brilliant move.
     
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    He didn't seem think about family deductibles going through the roofs along with the premium cost. He didn't seem to think of those 100,000 million who saw their health insurance and health care negatively effected so 30,000 million could have an insurance policy, they mostly had healthcare.

    If he thought of everything then why did Pelosi say:
    It's Time to Fix Obamacare
    https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2013/11/pelosi-its-time-to-fix-obamacare/281476/

    So why doesn't she?
     
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    100,000 million?? That's a lot of fake people..
     

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